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To: Turk82_1
Ah - liberalism. The culture of death.

Yeah?

Well if you don't like socialized medicine who's going to pay for the medical care of those without resources? What I'm recommending is a form of triage - a standard medical procedure used when resources are limited.

As for death. It happens to us all. Medicine is a form of human intervention which puts it off - at significant cost.

73 posted on 11/25/2004 7:42:30 AM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Well if you don't like socialized medicine who's going to pay for the medical care of those without resources? What I'm recommending is a form of triage - a standard medical procedure used when resources are limited.

Medical care will always be less than demand. there are only two ways to bring them into line: price and queueing. THat's basic economics. Socializing the medicine removes pricing from the equation, enforcing queueing. Waits for medical care reach scandalous levels, like those in Canada and Britain. Worse, socializing medicine removes choice from the consumer of medical care, and places it in anothers' hand, be it the gov't bureaucrat, the HMO, or your tender mercies. And most damning of all, socialization of medicine does not allow for mitigation at the margins - where charities can step in and provide services the government will not. In Canada, it is impossible to pay a doctor to care for you. And that means they can't do care for a charitable organization at nominal pay. That is why price and the free market can and must be the method best suited for delivering high quality care at the level that the consumer agrees on. If the whole-body CAT scan is too expensive every year, then the consumer will do it every two-or-three years, well aware of the risks of delay. Now, that is not to say there cannot be socialization at the margins, but it should be voluntary socialization: I volunteer to be part of a group health plan because that meets my needs best. Or the requirement for basic, supportive care for indigents, with funding at the state or local level. You unhappy with the care you receive as an indegent? That is the consequence of your not working during your life. You get basic, aplliative care. But you don't get a liver transplant just so you can go back to the bottle. Does that sound too heartless for you? True, death comes to us all. Your plan, though, would have the government decide who is 'less human' than others. Mine lets market forces, mitigated by human charity, do the rationing. Yours will cut off the old coot who is too mean to die, but it also takes away the choice from a dying grandparent to choose between something life-extending-but-expensive, and sending that money on to the grandkids. BTW - I just had Thanksgiving dinner with one of those "elderly old vegetables" whom you are so quick to turn into Soylent Green. She may be frail, but she is a wealth of information about life before New Deal socialism. And yes, she is a reflexive Democrat and all that, but I would pay anything to keep her around for as long as she wants to stay. You would take that away from me. And that, my poor fellow, is why Liberalism is the culture of death.

74 posted on 11/25/2004 7:26:14 PM PST by Turk82_1 (They also serve who merely stand and wait.)
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