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To: monday
That's really bizarre that you complain about people living in a "country" not wishing to speak the "country"'s official language.

A perfect example is the Trans-Carpathian Oblast (bordering present-day Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, and Romania as well as Ukraine proper (old provinces of Galicia and Bukovina). The people there historically called themselves Carpatho-Russians and have always rejected the "Ukrainian" ethno-political movement since it was invented in the early 1800's, and I was raised in America in that mindset too. Some of our famous poets like Stavrovskij-Popradov wrote about the great Russian nation "from the Poprad (present-day Slovakia) to the Pacific".

The ONLY reason it is in the Ukraine ("borderland") is that Stalin stole it from Czechoslovakia in 1945.

The million people there voted by about 90% to secede from the Ukraine in 1991 (as did the Russian province of the Crimea). In neither case did the Ukrainian aurhorities consider allowing such provinces. So they are stuck for at least a few more years in a "country" they don't want to be in at all.

40 posted on 11/23/2004 2:58:22 PM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Of course if we are to note such things, then we must note that 1. US/NATO bombed the Serbs in Bosnia and armed the Croats to exterminate the Serbs in Krina after those Serbs decided they wanted to be part of Serbia. That's a no-no. Of course for Slovania, Croatia and Bosnia to suceed equally illegally, why that was a good thing.

Nothing like the rank smell of hypocracy early in the morning. (ok evening)

43 posted on 11/23/2004 3:45:03 PM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
The million people there voted by about 90% to secede from the Ukraine in 1991 (as did the Russian province of the Crimea)

Why are you saying this? In 1991, they voted by 78% for autonomy but never for secession. Huge difference.

A perfect example is the Trans-Carpathian Oblast... ( The people there historically called themselves Carpatho-Russians and have always rejected the "Ukrainian" ethno-political movement......

This is misleading. You're perfectly aware that an ethnic debate has been going on there for decades- same situation with Lemkos. Catholics in Zakarpatska would never call themselves Carpatho Russians. If your statement were to be true than Zakarpatska would have voted for Yanukovych. It did not.

44 posted on 11/23/2004 3:45:33 PM PST by Solon
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