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1 posted on 11/22/2004 4:26:39 PM PST by absalom01
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Do they not already have a gas tax implemented? I don't know, but I'd find it hard to believe if they didn't.

If they do, then they already have imposed a tax on 'miles driven.'


60 posted on 11/22/2004 5:11:46 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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Head of DMV?

I imagine some, arrogant, 400 pound welfare jockey, sitting in a over stuffed, tax paid, government leather chair, with fishing tackle hanging off their ears, yawning at 300 people standing in line and moving as slow as syrup on a cold day.

63 posted on 11/22/2004 5:15:44 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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Highly fuel-efficient cars like the Honda Civic would be most dramatically impacted if the idea goes forward because the driver would be charged for the miles driven, not the gas consumed.

This would seem to be a showstopper arguement, huh? The only fair way to tax people for the gas they use is to...

(wait for it.... wait for it...)

TAX the gas itself!

88 posted on 11/22/2004 7:27:53 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Aut viam inveniam aut faciam - I will either find a way or make one)
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Are they telling anyone about the costs of implementing this crazy bs idea? I bet not. Like what is the contraption going to cost and what about the commission they are going to have set up to steal...ur....collect the fees? It's just another ruse to keep that graft money coming in.

Remember, if it weren't for the graft; we wouldn't have to pay high taxes. This is the real problem. Not every little stupid idea they can come up with. The problem is the money they keep stealing from us so they will have to keep coming up with stupid ideas like this.


91 posted on 11/22/2004 7:49:46 PM PST by freekitty
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as a california native this is the most dumbest idea i have ever head of and if you live in ca. like i do you know once they put a tax in THEY NEVER TAKE IT AWAY. 12 years ago we got a tax for water it was only for a year 12 years later we still get a bill for this tax (this is an additional assessment tax)I GUESS THE DUMB A** IN CA DIDN'T HEAR THE NEWS ON THURSDAY 1 IN4 CA. RESIDENTS ARE LEAVING, UHAUL AND MOVING TRUCKS ARE ALREADY RENTED OUT, THE HARD EARNING MIDDLE CLASS WILL BE NEXT AND HOLLYWIERD AND THE LIBERAL'S IN SAC. CA. WILL WONDER WHERE THE HECK ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY THE BILLS I GUESS THEY ALSO, DIDN'T READ THE ARTICLE IN NEWS MAX THAT THE RED STATES LIVE BETTER THAN THE BLUE STATES. WILL ANOTHER REASON ON MY LIST OF REASONS TO LEAVE THIS AWFUL STATE.


96 posted on 11/22/2004 8:32:40 PM PST by RightWingBev
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I'd like this if it meant dropping the gas tax.

That little cable to the odometer that just fell off I tell ya!


98 posted on 11/22/2004 9:17:36 PM PST by festus (Old growth timbers make the best campfires....)
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I GOT IT!!!

A BREATHING TAX, YEAH THAT'S THE TICKET!!!!


103 posted on 11/23/2004 4:47:14 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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I read a post on here a long time ago from a civil engineer. He said California pays the most per person in road maintenance taxes and spends the least.

Where's the money going??


108 posted on 11/23/2004 11:40:45 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Click on my name to see what readers have said about my Christian novels!)
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I just wrote my reprentative about it. Here's my letter (not a pretty thing, perhaps, but mine own!):

Dear (Representative):

Regarding the "mileage tax" recently proposed by the new director of the DMV, Joan Borucki: I want to weigh in on this subject and let you know that in my estimation, her proposal is a completely harebrained idea and should be buried forthwith.

There are two ways to implement Borucki's idea. One is to require people to bring in all of their autos on a yearly basis and have the odometers read. As you can imagine, this "simple" proposal will, in fact, create a whole new layer of bureaucracy devoted to implementing this idea, which will cost our already cash-strapped state untold millions which could certainly be put to better use.

The other proposed way of implementing this idea is to attach a GPS unit to every auto. Perhaps you will gain an idea of how I feel about this by the fact that when I first heard the idea, I burst out laughing. I thought it was literally a joke and that someone on the radio was having a little fun at the listeners' expense. When I realized that this was a serious proposal, I was appalled. I cannot think of a more egregious way to invade my privacy. It is NOT the government's business where I go and how much time I spend on the road. Also, I'm sure you will agree that if GPS units are attached to autos, it will be merely a matter of time until someone decides that the information gathered should be used in a criminal case. This may seem logical, but in fact it would be an incredible invasion of privacy and a deathblow to our free society.

I am not given to hyperbole, so I hope you will listen when I predict that if this proposal comes to pass, there will be widespread civil disobedience, and otherwise law-abiding citizens will spend their free time figuring out ways to "game" the system and provide false information about their movements to the government.

I understand that this proposal was brought forward because gasoline taxes are no longer bringing in sufficient revenues because autos are using less gas now. Well, then, either raise the gasoline tax (not that I like that idea, but at least it does not invade my privacy), or find another way to raise revenues that does not add a whole new layer of bureaucracy and does not invade my privacy as a free citizen.

Yours sincerely,


109 posted on 12/01/2004 11:01:31 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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Elsewhere: “Critics had worried that the technology could be used to track where vehicles go, not just how far they travel, and that this information could be stored by the government.”

“In interviews with the Democrat-Herald and others, James Whitty, the ODOT official in charge of the project, tried to assure the public that that was not in the plans.”

=> Yes...indeed...and when the police asked for Tasers, Tasering pre-teens and the wheelchair bound wasn’t in the plans -either.


110 posted on 12/30/2008 3:39:38 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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