The truth about marijuana.

Me

[dljordan]

"The Hazelden Foundation, which runs treatment centers for chemical dependency". No financial incentive here is there?

[dljordan]

This isn't about the effects of dope it's about religion.

[Just another Joe]

If they could figure out a way to tax it, pot WOULD be legal.

This is true only to a point.
Tobacco can be grown, cured, and smoked just like pot but millions of people still buy their cigarettes from the store premade.
Why? Convenience.
I still buy my tobacco post-cured, even if I do stuff my own cigs, but that doesn't mean I WANT to raise my own tobacco.
Some people do grow their own tobacco but they are few and far between.

The same point could probably be made for pot.
Millions would buy their pot already grown, cured, and rolled for the convenience.
Sure, some would still grow their own, if for no other reason than they enjoy the process.

It could be legalized, and taxed, only if there was a verifiable, quick, easy test for the police to use similar to the breathalizer for alcohol.

[newcats]

You might want to do a little research on the findings of that study before you start making blanket assertions.
Most studies from that era (and later)on the effects of marijuana have been proven false (or at the very least greatly inaccurate) by later studies.
But you are welcome to believe anything you wish.

[jocon307]

"ref: your post #3; I agree wholeheartedly. And anything put out by Hazelden must be viewed as them having a vested interest in the "addiction counseling mill/industry""

Thanks! I agree with your assessment of Hazelden too. I'm sure they do a great deal of good for some people, but it's always easy to see the uniquely American strain of puritanism in these things.

But I guess the UKer are getting almost as bad as we are. Soon all us freepers may have to go to France to have a drink and a smoke, or worse, Amsterdam!

[tacticalogic]

Most studies from that era (and later)on the effects of marijuana have been proven false (or at the very least greatly inaccurate) by later studies.

This one wasn't "proven false", it was immediately buried in the deepest, darkest bureaucratic hole they could find never to see daylight again. On the web, you will find many web sites funded by the federal government that will give you infomation about selected research done on the subject. You will not find a single link to or reference from this research project conducted by the government, and paid for by the tax payers because it didn't say what they wanted it to.

[SC DOC]

Marinol is cr*p

I pretty much agree with that assessment. In my experience as an oncologist, it is not useful in treating pain, and is minimally useful for nausea. We have about 8 drugs that are more useful than Marinol for nausea, many of which are considerably less expensive. It occasionally will stimulate a patient's appetite, but there are other medicines that do the same.

[Ken H]

april15Bendovr wrote: Information in the National Institute on Drug Abuse marijuana fact sheet shows that marijuana-related hospital emergency department visits in the United States recently experienced a 15 percent increase.

Know your rights wrote: "marijuana-related" means they asked the patient if they'd smoked marijuana recently and they said yes. By this standard, 100% of hospital emergency department visits are oxygen-related.

Heh heh. Looks like Haz^elden has been taking lessons from the old media.

[newcats]

Buried? I am sure you have looked for it? Or are you just taking the words of others? Try...
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/studies/nc/ncmenu.htm

[tacticalogic]

Buried by the government. It's a federal study, paid for by the taxpayers, and you won't find it published on a government site anywhere. Read it, and you'll know why.

[WildTurkey]

it was immediately buried in the deepest, darkest bureaucratic hole they could find never to see daylight again.

[tacticalogic]

Is that supposed to mean something? I'm old enough to have watched it happen. They couldn't get rid of that thing and change the subject fast enough.

[newcats]

This one wasn't "proven false", it was immediately buried in the deepest, darkest bureaucratic hole they could find never to see daylight again. On the web, you will find many web sites funded by the federal government that will give you infomation about selected research done on the subject. You will not find a single link to or reference from this research project conducted by the government, and paid for by the tax payers because it didn't say what they wanted it to.
Gee...a simple Google search would have brought this report out of that deepest darkest bureaucratic hole.

[Hildy]

Me too.

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Nice little anecdotal story...

I still pray that the people who have such a hard time with reality - that they have to resort to mind altering drugs, get the help that they truly need. It's really sad.

[t_skoz]

I concur. Testify!

[Delbert]

Funyuns Bump!

[tacticalogic]

Gee...a simple Google search would have brought this report out of that deepest darkest bureaucratic hole.

If it's out of it's hole, then you shouldn't have any trouble finding a link to it with a .gov tld.

[Ken H]

I still pray that the people who have such a hard time with reality - that they have to resort to mind altering drugs, get the help that they truly need. It's really sad.

Do you include social drinkers in that group?

BTW, do you ever consume alcohol? The reason I ask is that the drug alcohol is mind altering after only one or two drinks.

[newcats]

Doesn't matter if it is a .gov site or not, I am sure there are tons of decades old studies and reports that aren't hosted on government servers anymore. It is a matter of storage capacity vs. importance and relevancy.
You made it sound like the report was never to see the light of day again.
Wrong. Guess it was just too much work to look for it.