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No - it's not global warming.
1 posted on 11/20/2004 11:45:56 PM PST by El Oviedo
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Maybe it isn't that the sea is rising, it's that Tuvalu is sinking.


2 posted on 11/20/2004 11:52:08 PM PST by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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Life sucks at 1.3 meters above mean sea level.


3 posted on 11/20/2004 11:54:26 PM PST by SpaceBar
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It was cooler than usual here this summer and has gotten cold here faster this winter. The hottest summer we had was in 1988.

I have a letter that my great grandfather wrote in July,1864, while he was in the Union Army in Georgia, and said it was 110 degrees in the shade.

Is it hotter in Georgis than that in the summer now?

I read an article that temperature measurements are hotter because they are taken in cities which do grow hotter due to all the cement. And we all know that the Earth has been warming slowly but steadily since the last Ice Age, that 10,000 years ago the level of the oceans were rising and slowly taking out cities built on the shorelines of the Mediterranean.

To blame this all on America's present day culture is ludicrous, and may divert us from finding out what to do to adjust to the climatic vagaries of our planet.

I posted an article about precession (variations in the axis tilt of the Earth and its orbit around the sun) once, but couldn't find anyone who knew where we were in the precession cycle and how much longer the natural movement of our planet was going to last till it reached the furthest point and began tilting the other way again.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 12:02:50 AM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: El Oviedo

Tuva-who?


6 posted on 11/21/2004 12:18:43 AM PST by w6ai5q37b
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Renewable energy is not a BAD thing, in an of itself. But a lot depends upon the form it takes.

This past election here in Colorado, we passed an amendment to the state's constitution calling for sizeable increases in the amount of renewable energy produced across the state over the next decade. I don't have a real problem with that, except that the form of power production that is being relied upon most heavily is wind, and sometimes the wind just doesn't blow while at other times it blows too much (have to shut those large wind turbines down above about 50 mph wind speed).

I work at a natural gas fired generating facility, and we are in constant contact with the people who are responsible for maintaining the reliability of the power grid across the state. I asked one of them about wind power the other day, and she said everyone in their office voted against it and that they were all pretty unhappy that it passed because of the reliability issue of having 500 megawatts of power either suddenly appear or disappear from the grid.

Personally, I'd like to see more nuclear plants get built. They are much more cost-effective over the long haul, and their environmental impact is basically zero because they have no emissions.

Just my $0.02, of course.

8 posted on 11/21/2004 12:19:48 AM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame By Michael Leidig and Roya Nikkhah

[snip]Dr Sami Solanki, the director of the renowned Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Gottingen, Germany, who led the research, said: "The Sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures.

10 posted on 11/21/2004 12:26:54 AM PST by yoe
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Amazing how all these floating chunks of ice that are supposed to be melting will somehow increase the levels of the oceans.

Note to reporters: Fill a measuring cup with water and ice. Watch what happens when the ice melts. Then try to figure out why the 'oceans will rise' mantra doesn't make any sense.


13 posted on 11/21/2004 1:20:50 AM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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It's Bush's fault!


15 posted on 11/21/2004 2:02:47 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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"Tuvalu, an island nation...is projected to be the first island state to go under water."

"Australia's National Tidal Facility has had a monitoring station in Tuvalu since 1993 and over the last nine years, the sea level around Tuvalu had risen an average of 0.9 millimeters per year -- that's a whopping 0.03 inches per year or a grand total of .27 inches since 1993."   Source: "Tuvalu Is Not Sinking"

--Boot Hill

16 posted on 11/21/2004 2:26:27 AM PST by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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