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I still thought that Jim's explanation of their rocket engine was weak on specifics. I signed a nondisclosure with Harry, so I can't go into too much detail myself, but I never saw anything significant beyond fancy animations and models. It's fine to say you will use COTS, but some of these things are not readily available off-the-shelf. I wanted these guys to succeed, but I just didn't see how they were connecting the technical dots.

Integration as a whole was a bit of a hurdle...I think Jim's side of the deal was workable...Rutan's got a tremendous machine of people and facilities...And that is a great thing...

I'm surprised Harry tied you up like that???

I always thought that if it got a little more backing (i.e.: $$$$$$) we could have done some more...We participated knowing that all the good stuff would come in on the backside of the deal...

Like I said, I think the CAC folks really killed a lot of the momentum at a time when the project needed to be taken a bit more seriously...