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Black America may resent what Bill Cosby has been saying lately, but the ones who look at it openly and honestly realize that he is speaking the truth.
1 posted on 11/20/2004 4:18:44 PM PST by wagglebee
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Black Conservative metaping


2 posted on 11/20/2004 4:23:12 PM PST by martin_fierro (cOhErEnT pOsTs aRe oVeRrAtEd)
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""When I look at 55 percent of our black men dropping out of school, how bad off are we going to be when we need some lawyers?""

While I think Mr. Cosby is correct on many issues it would seem that he helps perpetuate the 'us' vs. 'then' racial mentality.
4 posted on 11/20/2004 4:24:55 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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Screw Cosby! He's been in the tank and supportive of the Democrap party that caused the cultural meltdown of the black family. Hypocrite!


7 posted on 11/20/2004 4:27:30 PM PST by Bommer
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Just saw "Tell My Friends on the Shore" a '72 Cosby movie and his movies have been very consistent about preaching morals and values. Heck, Cosby's main character is even forced out of work by a union strike.


8 posted on 11/20/2004 4:27:39 PM PST by Keyes2000mt (http://adamsweb.us/blog Conservative Truth for Idaho)
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Pretty soon we're going to start to see anti-Cosby political cartoons.


10 posted on 11/20/2004 4:27:52 PM PST by denydenydeny
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"I see a lot of girls who are pregnant. If they had a father figure, some of this wouldn't be," he said.

Cosby tells it like it is here--and this also applies to today's white community.

11 posted on 11/20/2004 4:27:54 PM PST by Fedora
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I just hope he is not preaching to the choir.


15 posted on 11/20/2004 4:33:52 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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Well duh Bill... It's the Jesse Jacksons (your dear, friend) of America that has kept this anger alive for OVER 20 YEARS!


17 posted on 11/20/2004 4:35:12 PM PST by jungleboy
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Bill Cosby needs to get on the voucher bandwagon.


20 posted on 11/20/2004 4:35:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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I think Cosby's statements apply to all people, not just blacks.

When I was growing up (when we had to walk through the snow to school), I could not watch TV on school nights, I had to have an after-school activity etc...

I swear, I have never seen so many fat kids as I do today. I think they just play video games.


25 posted on 11/20/2004 4:53:37 PM PST by Stratman
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Black conservatives have been saying this for years
Hell Booker T Washington said it years and years ago

But white liberals and black poverty pimps have drowned out their voices
26 posted on 11/20/2004 4:55:34 PM PST by uncbob
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"Our children are angry. The profanity is out in the street. It's on the buses and in the subway. Our children are trying to tell us something, and we are not listening,"

I dont think they are angry; I think that they are poorly raised.


27 posted on 11/20/2004 4:55:40 PM PST by mlmr (Rubbing it in Leftist faces since 1994)
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Hi wagglebee. I agree with the sentiment here, but it must be remembered that Cosby is a big part of the problem. He has coddled and (I'm sure) funded some of the most radical elements in the Black community. He is still a Friend of Bill, but also of Jessie Jackson, and all the rest of the hustlers who have been preying on the fears of Black Americans for decades. It's too little, way too late. (And yes, I recently repurchased his old albums in digital form. It's still funny today.)
29 posted on 11/20/2004 5:08:45 PM PST by Leonard210
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""Everybody is not a victim," Cosby said"

Hey Bill, at 67 years of age it is pretty nice that you are doing this. It's nice that you are pointing these things out.

But, when you were young, making your riches on the TV, just how often did you stand and speak this boldly? As I recall, not often at all. Perhaps you were storing your wealth and keeping quiet b/c you planned to take this offensive this late in life. But, I doubt it. You played a nice family doctor with a 'normal' family. Riggghhhht. And you raked in the dough, bit time.

How many young black men, who are on TV today making millions in sports, are you encouraging to talk NOW about this topic? How many rap stars are you barging in on during their recording sessions, and slamming them for the utter darkness of spirit coming from that filth? And, oh yes, how often do you say out loud that churches and faith can play a huge role in fixing this mess?

But we don't hear of these kinds of creative tactics on your part. Now, you are just pointing your finger, and pointing out that its a mess and saying people should 'grow up'. I offer you this suggestion: get a HECK OF A LOT MORE RADICAL THAN THIS. After all, you are not getting any younger.

You see my point Bill: TV, being sold out to TV is the key. You have little to lose, now, by leveraging that point.


30 posted on 11/20/2004 5:11:05 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
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"Our children are angry. The profanity is out in the street. It's on the buses and in the subway. Our children are trying to tell us something, and we are not listening," Cosby said . . .

This is so very true. I listened to it myself during my many years of teaching at a black college just a short distance from the high school where Cosby spoke. The young men were particularly angry at having grown up without fathers in their lives. The young women generally expressed their feelings in more subtle ways, but when they reached young adulthood, almost all of them had nothing but hatred for black men, including the young men who had fathered their own children (or soon would). I am so very, very glad Cosby is bringing it out into the open.

32 posted on 11/20/2004 5:13:13 PM PST by madprof98
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Claire Walker, who works at IBM and lives in Decatur, said she got off early to hear him speak. "It's something that should have been said a long time ago," Walker said. "Our leaders aren't taking responsibility for the youth of black America."

*sigh*

I guess she's not hearing what Cosby is saying. It is NOT the responsibility of black leaders to fix what's wrong with the black community. The abandonment of children by black fathers has been most of the problem.

33 posted on 11/20/2004 5:18:24 PM PST by Lizavetta (Modern liberalism: Where everyone must look different but think the same.)
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He's finally saying what I've been wanting to say. Problem is, I'm just a middle class white boy.


41 posted on 11/20/2004 6:47:13 PM PST by Angry Republican (yvan eht nioj!)
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It takes a doctorate, in "education" of all things, to be allowed to state the obvious nowadays. Sigh!


44 posted on 11/20/2004 6:51:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin; gonow

Moral Absolutes Ping - Just a gentle reminder from Mr. Cosby that when 75% of babies are born illegimate, chaos and social destruction ensue. Millions of lives are destroyed. Families are destroyed. Men wind up in prison. Women wind up with numerous children fathered by numerous men, none of whom act as fathers.

Basically, children need (1) father, who is married to (1) mother. And when nuclear mass of illegimatacy is reached, as in the black community and among a lot of white people as well, then - the results is subhuman barbarians who ruin their own lives and lives of those around them.

And we want "gay" marriage now?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


45 posted on 11/20/2004 6:53:40 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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"It's something that should have been said a long time ago," Walker said. "Our leaders aren't taking responsibility for the youth of black America."

She is missing the point. Don't count on leaders, rely on yourself. No "leader" can do it for you.

47 posted on 11/20/2004 7:04:03 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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