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To: Sam the Sham
Look at you. Porn has given you a very selfish definition of freedom that acknowledges only your right to gratify yourself immediately

Nonsense. That is certainly not my definition of freedom.

As I've said, my definition of freedom means being free to do whatever you want, so long as you do not harm the person or property of another.

What do you consider freedom?

456 posted on 11/25/2004 11:34:39 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman; Sam the Sham

"As I've said, my definition of freedom means being free to do whatever you want, so long as you do not harm the person or property of another."

MM thinks that porn is good and doesn't hurt anyone. StS and I consider that it does hurt people, and therefore society.

These two world views are irreconcilable. The problem is that only one can prevail. Porn has always existed and always will. Even when it was illegal and very difficult to obtain, users would always be able to get it. The difference was that young people especially, and men in general, would not have it dangling in front of them. Therefore, it did society little harm since it harmed very few people. But now, being practically omnipresent (way more than half of the internet is porn, I've read), it is very difficult for impressionable young people or people with a weakness for it to avoid.

But since MM thinks porn is good, and not harmful, this doesn't bother him. Even though if porn was hard to get, determined wankers could still get it. He wants everyone in the cesspool along with him.


462 posted on 11/25/2004 1:28:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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