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To: little jeremiah
MM - you haven't addressed the fact that up until in the 60s, the sale, dissemnination and production of pornography had strict limitations, subject to locality.

That was a blind spot in our conception of freedom of speech. The same could be said of civil rights for minorities. Certainly, the tradition up until the 60's had been to not consider certain types of speech as being covered by the 1st Amendment. That was, in my opinion, a situation where the practice in this country did not live up to the ideal of the 1st Amendment.

The ministrations of the LEFTIST ACLU, porn magnates, and a leftist SCOTUS forced everyone to accept the highly protected legality of porn, regardless of whether any communities in any state didn't want it.

Despite their leftist agenda, these groups were right on this issue. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Why are you siding with leftists and the use of federal force to reduce or eliminate states' rights?

In this case, yes. States rights does not mean that a state can trample on 1st Amendment freedoms. These decisions did a good thing- they took power away from government, both state and federal.

The Founding Fathers of this country wrote the Constitution at a time when there were laws against obscenity and pornography. Ever heard of "blue laws"? Those wise men never considered that the right of free speech should extend to explicit pornography

Perhaps. But so what? The FF were not perfect. They did not always live up to the ideals that they wrote into the Constitution.

You refuse to address these points, and until you do, I consider your sloganeering and transparent promotion of pornography mere weasel words, meaning in essence "I want it, therefore I shall have it."

You use the same logic that liberals apply to guns. Nobody needs to justify their reasons behind using their rights.

417 posted on 11/24/2004 6:44:52 AM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Modernman

Your comments reveal the depth of denial and mental gymnastics porn-promoters have to go to in order to support their fetish:

"That was a blind spot in our conception of freedom of speech."

"Despite their leftist agenda, these groups were right on this issue."

And my favorite lie:

"These decisions did a good thing- they took power away from government, both state and federal."

So by forcing pornography on every state, city, community, county, town and unicorportated rural area by LEFTIST JUDICIAL MANDATE - at the behest of pornography producers, and removing any legal option for such communities to prohibit the sale, distribution, manufacture or dissemination of pornography - is removing the power of government? It is using the jack boot of government to limit the rights of individuals.

How you and other porn promoters can twist the meanings of words because of your addiction to your fetish is amazing to watch.

"Nobody needs to justify their reasons behind using their rights."

No, it's crystal clear why wankers like porn.

Regarding comparing guns to porn - the right to protect oneself against enemies to the right to masturbate over pictures of whores prostituting themselves? These are not in the same category whatsoever, and it is laughable that you can compare them.


420 posted on 11/24/2004 8:23:10 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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