[little jeremiah]

I suppose you think the wise men quoted above needed bitch slapping, since they also were holier than thou busybodies?

[ThinkDifferent]

I suppose you think the wise men quoted above needed bitch slapping, since they also were holier than thou busybodies?

Not at all. They recognized, as you do not, that just because something may be moral or immoral does not mean that it should be imposed or prohibited at gunpoint. Consider that the 1st Amendment specifically denies government the ability to punish violations of several Commandments.

[Melas]

Nope, near as I can tell from the bits of Washing, Franklin, Jefferson and Adams that you quoted, they were merely stating their belief that a religious people was necessary to secure liberty. I'm more than fine with that. What I'm less than ok with is domineering jackass's who think they're better qualified to tell the rest of us how to live, than we are to make our own decisions.

I have no problem with you, or anyone else proclaiming the need to be a christiran, a jew, or a cyclon if that's what melts your butter. When you decide that you're going to make/force/compell/command me behave like a christian, a jew, or a cylon, that I'm going to fight back.