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To: Modernman

In the very small rural town I live 4 miles from (a town of 1200) a porn shop opened on the main street, right next to a family restaraunt. There was a lot of protest, many citizens didn't want it there. But there is no way, currently, for citizens to have a say about whether porn shops can be located in their neighborhood or not. Every day high school and grade school kids walk by the porn shop. That is not a good thing, it is a bad thing.

Here's the crux of the issue - people like me who understand the necessity of moral absolutes will never surrender to people like you who think your own mind and desires should be the guide of mankind.

People who think that pornography is either morally neutral or good are living in the dark. It is not morally neutral, it deserves no protection by law, and the only reason it is all-pervasive is because of the leftist ACLU, leftist SCOTUS, and the influence of porn mongers such as Larry Flynt. You like that crowd, you're of their ilk, so be it.


397 posted on 11/23/2004 11:55:19 AM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: little jeremiah
Every day high school and grade school kids walk by the porn shop. That is not a good thing, it is a bad thing

What does the porn shop look like? Are the videos and "marital aids" displayed in the windows or is the front of the shop blacked out? If the latter, how are kids affected in any way? If the former, then you have a point.

Furthermore, where do you get off trying to tell a property owner he cannot sell a legal product or lease retail space to a seller of legal products? What makes you think that you have any right to dictate to a private property owner what legal products he can and cannot sell? If you don't like what is being sold in the store, go ahead and buy the property and refuse to lease it to an adult shop. You sound like those liberals that want to use laws to ban people from building on their own land.

people like me who understand the necessity of moral absolutes will never surrender to people like you who think your own mind and desires should be the guide of mankind

The difference between me and you is that I have no desire to tell you how to live your life. I couldn't care less if you read Hustler or the Bible in your spare time. And I certainly have no desire to use government force to make you change what you do with other consenting adults in the privacy of your own home. I trust you to run your own life, and ask only the same in return.

It is not morally neutral, it deserves no protection by law, and the only reason it is all-pervasive is because of the leftist ACLU, leftist SCOTUS, and the influence of porn mongers such as Larry Flynt.

Or, maybe, because a large percentage, probably a majority, of Americans either enjoy pornography or aren't bothered if others watch it.

As has been said a million times on these threads, if you don't like pornography, don't watch it. If enough Americans share your sentiments, porn companies will go out of business. Pretty simple, really.

399 posted on 11/23/2004 12:26:42 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

Bravo. This has been an interesting debate. Regardless of the politics of the matter, I think our founding fathers were cognizant that we were established as a nation by Heaven's graces. Think of all the times that we were preserved by the hand of Providence.

General Washington was blessed on a number of occasions, when battles weren't going his way, that inclement weather allowed his forces to break from the engagement and live to fight another day. There were instances in journals and letters where the writers told of rivers freezing just long enough for the Colonists to get on the other side and keep the Redcoats on the other. In the War of 1812, the British captured and burned Washington, only to be driven out of the city by a hurricane.

I think we would be wise if we enjoyed our liberty with sufficient gratitude to the Creator who endowed us with those rights. He expects us to keep his commandments. To celebrate liberty and deny the hand that gave it to us foolish.

We are currently engaged in another shooting war and we need to seek Heaven's help and not disparage it. Our force of arms is great, but Joshua took Jericho with only 200 men. The power of America is in goodness. Paraphrasing deTocqueville: "When America ceases to be good, it will cease to be great.

Can anyone here imagine that pornography is something Deity would consider praiseworthy or of good report?

GW


401 posted on 11/23/2004 12:36:12 PM PST by gregwest
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To: little jeremiah
Here's the crux of the issue - people like me who understand the necessity of moral absolutes will never surrender to people like you who think your own mind and desires should be the guide of mankind.

Likewise, there are people like me who understand the necessity of bitch-slapping holier than thou busybodies who alway seem to think they're better qualified to run their neighbors lives, than their neighbors themselves are capable of running their own lives.

Make no mistake, I'm not surrendering to the likes of you either, and if I'm not better armed, I'm on equal footing if and when it comes to that.

406 posted on 11/23/2004 4:03:57 PM PST by Melas
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