[WRhine]

You are holding out for a utopia that won't happen.

utopia? LOL. Unless you caught my drift, I'm actually quite pessimistic on the chances for any positive reforms on the issue of illegal immigration, Tom's plan notwithstanding.

The right position is that we don't need a guest worker program. Period. These politicians work for us, not the other way around. Most Americans are against this nonsense. That should be the message to Congress and the WH. You start "compromising" with the "compromised" and you are going to end up with a bad deal.

[Fatalis]

Yes, Utopian. You've relegated yourself to the sidelines, content to complain, but unwilling to risk being a part of the solution.

If you don't support Tancredo, you make it more likely that you are going to end up with the bad deal. You want more to act like him in Congress? Support him.

Cheers