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Victor Davis Hanson: Real Humanists, Revolution from Afghanistan to Iraq
NRO ^ | 11/19/2004 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/19/2004 5:58:06 AM PST by Tolik

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1 posted on 11/19/2004 5:58:07 AM PST by Tolik
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To: seamole; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...


    Victor Davis Hanson Ping ! 

       Let me know if you want in or out

2 posted on 11/19/2004 5:58:43 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
In September and early October 2002

Don't have to go past the first line to find sloppy fact checking....

3 posted on 11/19/2004 6:01:12 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

You are right it's 2001. Obvious typo. How about everything else?


4 posted on 11/19/2004 6:09:50 AM PST by Tolik
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I gained a lot of respect for VDH after I read "Who Killed Homer," and I'm a big supporter of preserving the Western Tradition (I spent 6 semesters studying Latin, now a PhD student in Medieval Literature). However, his political rants are growing increasingly tiresome.


5 posted on 11/19/2004 6:10:08 AM PST by Latte Drinker
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To: Tolik

Read later


6 posted on 11/19/2004 6:13:15 AM PST by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Tolik
Who would have believed 60 years ago that the great critics of democracy in the Middle East would now be American novelists and European utopians, while Indians, Poles, and Japanese were supporting those who just wanted the chance to vote? Who would have thought that a young Marine from the suburbs of Topeka battling the Dark Ages in Fallujah — the real humanist — was doing more to aid the planet than all the billions of the U.N.?

Those on the left who are ignorant of history lectured the Bush administration that democracy has never come as a result of the threat of conflict or outright war — apparently the creation of a democratic United States, Germany, Japan, Italy, Israel, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Serbia, and Afghanistan was proof of the power of mere talk. In contrast, the old realist Right warned that strongmen are our best bet to ensure stability — as if Saudi Arabia and Egypt have been loyal allies with content and stable pro-American citizenries. In truth, George Bush's radical efforts to cleanse the world of the Taliban and Saddam Hussein, bring democracy to the heart of the Arab world, and isolate Yasser Arafat were the most risky and humane developments in the Middle East in a century — old-fashioned idealism backed with force in a postmodern age of abject cynicism and nihilism.

Quite literally, we are living in the strangest, most perilous, and unbelievable decade in modern memory.

Professor Hanson uses the eye of a fine historian to observe today's events, and he brings an excellent pen to their chronicle.

It is a pity that those who style themselves as journalists cannot bring themselves to read such an accomplished writer and historian.

7 posted on 11/19/2004 6:22:21 AM PST by snowsislander
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Am bookmarking this piece! It is BRILLIANT because it lays out the whole rationale for the "Bush Doctrine". It ought to be on the FRONT PAGE of the NYT--but of course that will never happen. Yet it is news that must be printed--because it tells truths that MUST be told.

The typo is a mistake--but the entire article is accurate. Better one typo than whole paragraphs of lies--as the NYT is wont to feed us!

8 posted on 11/19/2004 6:35:36 AM PST by milagro
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Please add me to the VDH list!


9 posted on 11/19/2004 6:36:07 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: snowsislander

What an eloquent response--thank you!


10 posted on 11/19/2004 6:36:56 AM PST by milagro
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To: Latte Drinker
However, his political rants are growing increasingly tiresome.

Rants? Tiresome?

What exactly do you find so unpalatable about VDH's editorials?

11 posted on 11/19/2004 6:38:41 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Tolik

In September and early October 2002 we were warned that an invasion of Afghanistan was impossible — peaks too high, winter and Ramadan on the way, weak and perfidious allies as bad as the Islamists — and thus that the invasion would result in tens of thousands killed and millions of refugees.

Meanwhile back in the real world

More good news from Afghanistan
Winds of Change ^ | 11/15/04 | Arthur Chrenkoff


Posted on 11/19/2004 8:07:05 AM CST by Valin


Badam, a Pashtun nomad, might have been the oldest voter in Afghanistan's recent presidential election. While birth records are sparse in his country, Badam's mother had once told him he was born in the year of "zeym" (the inundation), as 1894 is still remembered in collective memory - making Badam 110 years old.

"Badam is old enough to remember some of the crucial moments in Afghanistan's early twentieth-century history. During the reign of the modernising King Amanullah [1919-29], he fought under Khan Haji against British forces. 'At that time I was a handsome boy and I had the strength to fight against British,' he said. "Now, by voting, Badam said he felt as if he had struck another blow for Afghan independence. 'I know it's not appropriate for my age, but I danced the Atan [a traditional Pashtun dance] today because it's one of the happiest days of my life,' he said.

"He said he could count such days on the fingers of one hand. 'The first was on my second wedding day, which was a love match, and the second was five years later, when I became father of a son,' he said. 'The third is today, when I decide my own destiny'." Millions of Badam's younger countrymen - and women - shared that experience with him just over a month ago. After decades of war and oppression, which left one million dead, forced some five million to flee across borders, and utterly devastated and impoverished the country, the Afghans are finally finding some reasons to be happy. Largely out of the international media spotlight, Afghanistan continues to progress along the winding road to peace, freedom and democracy. Here are some snapshots from the past four weeks of that journey:

Society

Reconstruction

Humanitarian Aid

The Coalition Troops

Security


(Excerpt) Read more at:
http://www.windsofchange.net/archives/005887.php#more


12 posted on 11/19/2004 6:49:49 AM PST by Valin (Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
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bttt


13 posted on 11/19/2004 6:51:25 AM PST by meema
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Hanson Bump!


14 posted on 11/19/2004 6:55:30 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Tolik

VDH nails it again!


15 posted on 11/19/2004 6:56:27 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Latte Drinker

Ooooo.....ready, aim.....zot?


16 posted on 11/19/2004 6:59:36 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media is Enemy #1. The Bureaucracy is Enemy #1.5.)
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To: bikepacker67

Added to the ping list.

BUMP for VDH


17 posted on 11/19/2004 7:02:03 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
Another fascinating story is the leftist abdication of any sense of humanity. Remember the platitudes, 'Free Tibet', 'No One is Free when Others are in Chains', recall the outraged activism over Latin American politics, genocide in the Balkans, and apartheid in South Africa.

Now there is scant concern for apartheid in the Middle East, abject oppresssion of women, or appreciation of democracy as a higher form of politics.

Now the left has put human rights on the shelf. The implicit message to the masses is 'tough luck -- you're on your own as long as a Republican is in charge'.

The pursuit of human rights under Bush must be categorized as imperialism, and it must be suppressed for the sake of leftist petulance. Bush has taken the humanitarian mantle from the left, and leaves them sputtering excuses for regimes like the Taliban.

18 posted on 11/19/2004 7:22:35 AM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Latte Drinker
However, his political rants are growing increasingly tiresome.

The Viking Kitties have found you increasingly tiresome.

Don't the door hit you in the @ss on the way out.

19 posted on 11/19/2004 7:43:47 AM PST by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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V.D. Hanson tells it like it is! Especially... 'Reactionary Old Europe, in concert with the ossified American Leftist elite, unleashed everything in its ample cultural arsenal: novels, plays, and op-ed columns calling for the assassination of President Bush..." He definitely has a way with words, and we do indeed live in interesting times.


20 posted on 11/19/2004 8:07:05 AM PST by hershey
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