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To: Polka Dots and Stripes
I'm the one who said Arabs are cowards, and when I say that I am specifically aiming the comment at the jihadis in Fallujah.

A shortage of common sense and a surplus of testosterone is no substitute for courage. If it were we'd think of LA gangs as being courageous. We don't.

Hiding in a mosque is not courageous. Hiding in schools is not courageous. Evicting Iraqis from their homes to provide places of refuge for terrorists to hide is not courageous. Dressing as civilians in order to avoid becomgin a target- and in the act making it increasingly likely a real civilian will be mistaken for an insurgent is not courageous- that's just using one culture's humanitarian nature against them. Setting bombs beside a road to kill Iraqi civilians is not courageous. Taking hostages is not courageous. Making videos of decapitations in order to recruit for testosterone filled idiot jihadis is not courageous. Lopping off the heads of female humanitarian aide workers is not courageous. Hunting down the families of Iraqi guardsmen to 'punish' them for working with Americans is not courageous. Hanging Iraqis who don't embrace foreign arabs invading their city to impose Talibanlike Sharia law is not courageous.

The Arab interlopers in Fallujah aren't courageous. They're ignorant. Stupid makes them do things a well-informed person would never do no matter how courageous that person is. Most don't grasp what it's like to be on the receiving end of US weapons until they get trapped in a city and can't leave it because their own terrorist buddies will shoot them in the back or slit their throats just like they did any Iraqis who didn't take up arms alongside them.

Most are first-time wannabe foreign jihadis whose "courage" is no greater than that of a cornered animal- indeed, can't be called courage so much as desperation. They either die fighting or they just die.

Dying to accomplish nothing isn't courage- it's just stupid. Welcome to the Arab world. They die for nothing all the time. They've never had anything noble to fight for until now, and the noble ones aren't those holed up in fallujah- instead the noble ones are those who in spite of the terrorist's threats against their families are joining up to help bring their country to the point where they can have free elections. Those are the ones who have something to fight for. The insurgents are just unemployed scumbags who have nowhere to go- going home offers them nothing, Afghanistan is no longer a safe haven for them, and the Iraqis don't like them in Iraq either. The Baathists can no longer rule in Iraq and even they now know there are plenty of Iraqis who would like nothing more than to hoist them on a lightpole, and they have nowhere to go since Syria really doesn'tr want to tick us off right now.

The hotheads among them have piddled in their own pools so long they've turned their countries into cesspits. They are without hope now and have nothing to live for so they die, like wild rabbits do when you try to keep them in a cage.

The jihadis have been fed crap by their mullahs and some of it did have some roots in the truth- namely, our leadership's act of cowardice in retreating from Somalia and leaving it to al Qaeda and the warlords. They were told and they accepted the idea that we wouldn't fight them man-to-man, that we'd run away if they can kill some of us in front of a camera. They didn't come to fight in Fallujah because they had courage- they came to fight in Fallujah because they didn't have anywhere else to go and thought they could pull off another Somalia. They were recruited thinking they could kill a US soldier or two and go home, job done. For a while there Kerry and his kind gave them some hope to keep on fighting, but now they are stuck in an Iraqi city whose residents want them to leave so they can get on with their lives.

51 posted on 11/18/2004 3:17:23 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa
Perhaps your right, but your earlier statement suggested that all Arabs were cowards, and that is too harsh a generalisation for over 1 billion people.

However I still feel that the Fallujah fighters are displaying courage in the face of a far superior force, the terrorists know that they have no chance in a streight fight with US forces so the hide and ambush, that still takes courage.

And also couldn't it be argued that US and British troops 'die for nothing' in Iraq? the principle reason stated for war, namely WMD has been found to be false, therefore 15000 people have died for nothing, including 1100 US soldiers and 60+ UK soldiers.
56 posted on 11/18/2004 3:46:50 AM PST by Polka Dots and Stripes
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