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To: Dimensio

"Why just Biblican creation? Why not the creation myths of other religion? How about the Hoopi Indian creation story?"

Evolution is not science either. There is plenty of information to lend doubt to it. But evolutionist faith won't permit it. You are deceiving yourself if you think your faith is based on objective reasoning. It isn't and I have known doctors who have said the same.

As for "creation myths of other religions", your bias is showing. You call them "myths" and reveal your ignorance already.

But here is the challenge:

Allow intelligent design to be taught. Allow it to be debated in a class whether a "creator" (Hoopi or otherwise) is more likely to have made the universe or whether we all descended from a great cosmic accident. Evolutionist won't allow it to be taught because they (and you) FEAR the truth may be something other than your faith.


131 posted on 11/18/2004 11:21:09 AM PST by worldclass
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To: worldclass
Evolution is not science either.

You say this like you have understanding on the subject that surpasses 99% of the world's biologists.

There is plenty of information to lend doubt to it.

And I'm sure that you just meant to offer up a sample of that information.

But evolutionist faith won't permit it.

Right, it has nothing to do with the fact that every "objection" to evolution shown is founded in either religious dogma or scientific ignorance (or both).

You are deceiving yourself if you think your faith is based on objective reasoning.

It's more than objective reasoning. It's interpretation of evidence and consistent results from experimentation.

It never ceases to amaze me that creationists still push this "conspiracy theory" about evolution being totally nonscientific and totally unfounded, yet still pushed by every leading biologist on the planet like there's some kind of hidden agenda to shove through a non-scientific explanation as a genuine scientific theory.

As for "creation myths of other religions", your bias is showing. You call them "myths" and reveal your ignorance already.

So you would have no objection to teaching the Hoopi creation story?

Allow intelligent design to be taught.

Okay. What is "Intelligent design" theory? What does it predict, how can it be tested and what hypothetical observation would falsify it?

And why is it that whenever I ask for that, I get silence?

Allow it to be debated in a class whether a "creator" (Hoopi or otherwise) is more likely to have made the universe or whether we all descended from a great cosmic accident. Evolutionist won't allow it to be taught because they (and you) FEAR the truth may be something other than your faith.

Actually, it's more about it not being science. "Evolutionists", as a whole, don't say anything about the formation of the universe from an intelligent designer, because the theory of evolution says nothing whatsoever about the origins of the universe.

I will, however, note your attempt to shove the logical fallacy of "appeal to incredulity" into scientific classrooms.
132 posted on 11/18/2004 11:37:35 AM PST by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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To: worldclass
"Allow intelligent design to be taught. Allow it to be debated in a class whether a "creator" (Hoopi or otherwise) is more likely to have made the universe or whether we all descended from a great cosmic accident. Evolutionist won't allow it to be taught because they (and you) FEAR the truth may be something other than your faith.

Do you really believe a debate amongst hormone-handicapped teenagers in a public-school classroom will shed significant light on the relative merits of intelligent design and evolution?

133 posted on 11/18/2004 11:38:05 AM PST by atlaw
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To: worldclass

Make predictions based on intelligent design that would, if found false, cause you to at least question a belief in that idea. Tell me how to test these predictions. Test them. If these predictions are found to be true, then ID will be legitimate science. It is not legitimate science to just say, "evolution has problems. It's possible that intelligent design was at work in the creation of life." That is not enough to be taken seriously as science.


140 posted on 11/18/2004 12:39:17 PM PST by stremba
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