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To: orangelobster

I didn't say the "city" was sinking. I said "Rudy" was sinking. There was a game in the local media "where's Rudy living?" nobody could figure out where he was living for awhile. Finally, he was spotted at his new residence. He was living with two gay friends on the upper east side (cue Odd Couple theme song). His former mistress a young girl was seen as a loose cannon and he was embroiled in some ugly policies. Plus, he kept firing police commissioners.

Again, Rudy isn't a bad guy, but he's a prosecutor. A class NYC prosecutor. He needs a fight. An opponent. That's when he functions best.

In regards to riding Koch's coat tails, yeah, that's pretty much true, for better or worse. Koch did a lot of stuff that eased the way for placing big bets on wall street, banking, and media. Many of the deals regarding Times Sq revitalization were made under Koch. Dinkins was a place holder, basically coasting through his years in city hall.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 3:53:35 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

o.k. dude. I get the picture. Rudy did the best job in the history of nyc in cleaning up the city from corruption, the mob and a leaden buerocracy and you want to ignore that because you can't get over that he has some gay friends and his marriage fell apart. No arguing with this set of priorities.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 3:59:59 PM PST by orangelobster
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To: durasell; orangelobster

Pardon me, but Rudy IS a bad guy. Any guy who cheats on his wife in front of his children, that is to me the textbook definition of an immoral--bad--person. He is a dirtbag on the Clinton level morally.

Now, Rudy may be a stellar politician. He may have stood tall in the face of the WTC falling and thus inspired New York City residents not to act like the liberal pantywaist cowards they generally are.

But I hope many others agree with me when I say I could never vote for someone who would cheat on such an important contract. Never. And even though Rudy and I might agree on a lot politically, he'll never get my vote because of his screwing around.


70 posted on 11/17/2004 4:52:36 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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