Posted on 11/17/2004 12:34:11 PM PST by blam
My own opinion is it may be a sunken city, but if it's not where Plato said Atlantis is--and Cyprus isn't--it's not Atlantis, by definition.
I did a google search. Huebscher works for the Hamburg Center of Marine and Atmospheric Sciences. He is possibly a geophysicist, whose specialty would be earthquakes, volcanoes, etc.
You're not alone. This book, Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders, by Dr Robert Schoch, expresses similar views.
As does this one: Eden In The East, by Dr Stephen Oppenheimer.
The problem with early civilization type theories though is this. Advanced tech requires specialized materials. That means mining, transportation, and processing. We should find roads, and mines, and slag piles, and processing plants.
It's pretty hard to hide roads, especially the types of roads you need in the mountains where you mine materials.
On the flip side, though, they would have had access to much richer ore bodies than we have today.
They're underwater on Sundaland. The prime area for tin mining in that region is on the Sunda Shelf. The oldest bronze manufacturing/smelting site ever discovered is in Thailand.
Believe me, I am very open to alternate ideas about past history. I just question some of the more extreme claims (electrical systems 3000 years ago?). Big, complex systems require big, complex support structures.
There is a fellow on the net that has alot of alternative archeological theories. There have been things discovered that we still couldn't do. One had to do with a garden somewheres in South America that was decorated with fine filligreed silver and gold ornaments, animals and plant sculptures that are almost detailed beyond description.
Of course, who knows. And something might happen that wiped out a lot of evidence.
A flood, maybe... something like that
Spanish investigators have discovered Atlantis's archaeological evidences...
Atlantis = Iberia. Atlantis in Gibraltar and Ibero-Morrocian. The Georgeo's theories
Extracts the Georgeo's theories an hipotesis. (Forum Atlantis-Rising 2001-2004)
Official website of the Georgeos's tehories (in spanish)
http://Atlantis.sitio.net
http://Atlantis.miarroba.com
http://Georgeos-Diaz.sitio.net
Spanish investigators have discovered archaeological evidences underneath the sea, near the coasts of Gibraltar, that could belong to the Atlantic civilization described by Plato with the name of Atlantis and that the Greek philosopher located exactly in front of the Columns of Hercules (Straits of Gibraltar), next to the region of Gadeira (Cadiz, Andalusia) and of the Atlas (Morocco).
The first findings were made in the summer of the 2003. A report with the preliminary results was made, they consulted to great experts of reputation the International as George F. Bass and Cemal Pulak and the report were sent to the authorities and competent organisms of Spain and to UNESCO.
It has spent a year, and still no scientific institution has shown interest to study the solid evidences discovered by the team of collaborating explorers of the investigator and escriptólogo Georgeos Diaz-Montexano, intellectual author of the theories that support these discoveries on the identification of the kingdom of the Atlantis with the Atlantic towns of the coasts of Iberia and Morocco.
It is the first time in all history that is discovered architectonic rest and metal devices under the sea in a location that agrees in a 100% with the descriptions offered by Plato on the geographic place where it was the island and the Acropolis of the Atlantis.
Some investigators protest to have found Atlantis in other places of the World like Jim Allen, that places in a so remote place of Gibraltar as mountains of Bolivia, whereas Robert Samarst now is conceited to have discovered the Atlantis near the coasts of Cyprus, but Sarmast has still not discovered nor a single archaeological evidence, the only thing that does since it initiated his expeditions is to show pretty drawings of virtual maps recreated by knoll computers and natural geologic formation that it interprets like rest of Atlantis buried by the marine bottom.
The Spanish investigator Georgeos Diaz-Montexano, the German Ulf Ritcher and the Dutch Jonas Berghman are the only investigators who defend with scientific rigor and adjusting to Plato's texts and many other authors of the antiquity the only possible location of Atlantis: the one that describes Plato, that is to say, near the Columns of Hercules (Gibraltar), Gadeira (Cadiz, Andalusie, Spain) and the Atlas (Morocco).
The Georgeos Diaz-Montexano's equipment of collaborator is the unique one who has shown the world submarine archaeological evidences that have been analyzed by the experts and they have still not been possible to recognize or to classify. These evidences are to depths that correspond with the old level of the sea of several thousands of years before the times of Solón and Plato.
It is paradoxical that the team of Spanish investigators has still not demanded the discovery of Atlantis, in spite of being those that more scientific evidences have and that nevertheless, Robert Sarmarst does not matter to him to affirm to the world that already has discovered Atlantis when the only thing that it has at the moment is not more than a few natural hills and formation - until it demonstrates to the opposite and a few virtual maps and recreations where it is reconstructed what Sarmast thinks that must have, but that not yet exists.
Robert Sarmast not yet has shown the world nor a single archaeological evidence that is solid and worthy to consider, whereas Georgeos Diaz-Montexano has shown to not one but several deposits with archaeological evidences "sui generis" that would have to be object of study between the scientists. Robert Sarmast has guided fundamentally by the speculations of the book pseudo-religious of Urantia, whereas Jonas Berghman, Ulf Ritcher, and in special, Georgeos Diaz-Montexano, prefers to guide itself by the scientific and philological study of the oldest manuscripts known Plato, and the scientific evidences contributed by geology, oceanography, the paleogeography, the sismology and archaeology.
Nevertheless, and against all logic, Robert Sarmast he is receiving, probably the greater advertising support at level the International that has never received a finder of Atlantis.
How can be explained these paradoxes?
Perhaps exists some false prejudice against the inhabitants of Spain and Morocco?
+ information and related links:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011563/posts
http://www.AtlantisDiscovery.com/news
http://DiscoveryAtlantis.sytes.net
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/atlantis_news_georgeos_diaz.html (Abstract Atlantis in Andalusia. Atlantis in front of Gibraltar. Atlantis Iberian-Moroccian The Spanish newspapers and magazines recognize the investigations of Georgeos Diaz-Montexano.)
Atlantis in Andalusia.
Atlantis in front of Gibraltar.
Atlantis Iberian-Moroccian
The Spanish newspapers and magazines recognize the investigations of Georgeos Diaz-Montexano
LAST NEWS!!
¡ÚLTIMA NOTICIA!
News proofs locates the origin of the story of Atlantis in time previous to Plato!!
María Fdez-Valmayor. News' Agency "AtlantisNews".
"Spain's Epigraphic Society" (S.E.S)
The investigator and founder of the "Spain's Epigraphic Society" (S.E.S), Georgeos Díaz-Montexano, it has discovered philological and paleographical proofs of which the narration of Plato that treats on the Atlantis has had as composition base an original document written in the archaic Greek style, similar to the used at the Solon's timesâ¦
+ info. English translation, hear:
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/plato_paleography_georgeos.pdf
+ info. Artículo en español, aquí:
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/paleografia_platon.pdf
The Plato's Atlantis and Georgeos' Díaz theories News!!
http://www.diariosur.es/pg040608/prensa/noticias/Sociedad/200406/08/SUR-SOC-219.html
http://www.elcomerciodigital.com/pg040608/prensa/noticias/Sociedad/200406/08/GIJ-SOC-166.html
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/atlantis_abc_index.html
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_Hoy_Digital_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_ABC_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_El_Comercio_Digital_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_Hoy_Digital_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_Sur_Digital_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Digitalizado_Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_ABC_08_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/Atlantis_Andalusia_Iberia_Gibraltar_ABC_26_06_2004_b.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/news/atlantis_norte_de_castilla_26_06_2004_b.pdf
The Georgeos' Diaz Atlantis' book:
http://Georgeos-Diaz.sitio.net
The Georgeos' Diaz Atlantis' conferences:
http://Conferencias-atlantida.sitio.net
The Georgeos' Diaz Atlantis' multimedia:
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisiberia/multimedia.htm
The Georgeos' Díaz Atlantis' theories, Collina-Girard, UNESCO and Scientific Expeditions, 2003/204:
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/noticias.htm
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/release_news.htm
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/teorias2.htm
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/news31.htm
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/comentariosteorias.htm
Atlantis' Scientific Reports in pdf:
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/The_archaeological_evidence_in_front_of_Gibraltar.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/egiptosofia/The_archaeological_evidence_in_front_of_Gibraltar.pdf
http://civilizaciones.webcindario.com/atlantologia/library/tablacomparativa2.pdf
http://club.telepolis.com/gadeiros/pruebasgeorgeosteoriaelistas3.pdf
http://usuarios.lycos.es/egiptosofia/Informe_Tatessos-Atlantis_Unesco.pdf
FAQ. Preguntas más Frecuentes:
http://usuarios.lycos.es/atlantisbook/Preguntas_y_objeciones_frecuentes_a_Atlantis.htm
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Note: this topic is from 11/17/2004. A re-ping. Thanks blam.
Note: this topic is from 11/17/2004. Thanks blam.
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