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To: WildTurkey

BTW, because researchers don't respond to ONE rabid, foaming at the mouth skeptic like Bruce Flamm probably bodes well for the researchers.

Also, websites at universities for researchers are generally taken down when the researcher leaves the university.

You're not trying to distort these events to portray something sinister about these SCIENTISTS, are you? Heavens, there may thousands of them out there, just willing to lie and distort in the name of scientific progress, mightn't there?


250 posted on 11/18/2004 12:32:52 PM PST by ColoCdn (Truth never dies)
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To: ColoCdn

You forgot to mention how they lied about their motives and the felony prosecutions for mail fraud and stolen money.


252 posted on 11/18/2004 12:37:58 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
Also, websites at universities for researchers are generally taken down when the researcher leaves the university.

It was not his or his website. It was the Columbia U review of the article and it was deleted. For obvious reasons.

255 posted on 11/18/2004 12:42:31 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: ColoCdn
You're not trying to distort these events to portray something sinister about these SCIENTISTS, are you?

Scientists? I really doubt it! Not characters I would want to base my life on.

A mysterious individual known as Daniel P. Wirth. In October 2002, one year after the Cha/Wirth/Lobo study was published, Mr. Wirth, along with his former research associate Joseph Horvath, also known as Joseph Hessler, was indicted by a federal grand jury (9). Both men were charged with bilking the troubled cable television provider Adelphia Communications Corporation out of $2.1 million by infiltrating the company, then having it pay for unauthorized consulting work. Police investigators discovered that Wirth is also known as John Wayne Truelove. FBI investigators revealed that Wirth first used the name of Truelove, a New York child who died at age five in 1959, to obtain a passport in the mid-1980s. Wirth and his accomplice were charged with thirteen counts of mail fraud, twelve counts of interstate transportation of stolen money, making false statements on loan applications, and five other counts of fraud. A federal grand jury concluded that the relationship between Wirth and Horvath extended back more than twenty years and involved more than $3.4 million in income and property obtained by using false identities. In addition to the Adelphia scheme, Wirth apparently found a way to defraud the federal government by collecting Social Security benefits totaling approximately $103,178 from 1994 to 2003 in the name of Julius Wirth. This man, possibly Daniel Wirth's father, died in 1994 but his benefits continued to be paid after his death via electronic funds transferred to the Republic National Bank.

Incredibly, at the time of the indictment, Horvath, Wirth's partner, was already in jail, charged with arson for burning down his Pennsylvania house to collect insurance money (10). The FBI investigation revealed that Horvath had previously gone to prison in a 1990 embezzlement and false identity case in California. Interestingly, the investigation also revealed that he had also once been arrested for posing as a doctor in California. It appears that the "doctor" who performed biopsies on human research subjects in Wirth's famous healing studies may have actually been Horvath impersonating a doctor. Horvath was a co-author on another of Wirth's studies in which salamander limbs were amputated and found to grow back more quickly when "healers" waved their hands over the wounds.

Both Wirth and Horvath initially pled not guilty to the felony charges, and over the next eighteen months their trial was delayed six times. However, on May 18, 2004, just as the criminal trial of the United States v. Wirth & Horvath was finally about to begin, both men pled guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud and conspiracy to commit bank fraud (11). Each man faced a maximum of five years in federal prison and agreed to forfeit assets of more than $1 million obtained through fraudulent schemes. Horvath, however, was found dead in his jail cell on July 13, 2004, an apparent suicide.

258 posted on 11/18/2004 12:51:53 PM PST by WildTurkey
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