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To: Tom Bombadil; Jambe
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy? He didn't for the marine to shoot him. What was he supposed to do? Not report it?

Blame the Bush admin. for allowing these guys there in the first place.

23 posted on 11/17/2004 4:36:35 AM PST by raybbr
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To: raybbr

Damn straight Mr. Troll we do expect the guy to throw that film in the trash. It isnt news that we are killing the enemy and it isnt his job to try to hang a marine.

Is this media guy a target ?I dunno , I do know if I was in this marines outfit I wouldnt feel too bad if the terrorists got him.


25 posted on 11/17/2004 4:43:27 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (Why did you send me here if you dont want me to kill the enemy?)
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To: raybbr

You are an idiot. The problem is that NBC aired this knowing that it would incite more terrorism. The report could have been made, and the video saved for another time, but the video itself does far more harm than good to our troops and Operation Iraqi Freedom.


30 posted on 11/17/2004 4:54:00 AM PST by Sirc_Valence (As socialists formed trade unions against employers the ACLU formed against the U.S.)
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To: raybbr

So, blame Bush, hah. This is pretty much the jist of the post.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 5:47:46 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: raybbr
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy? He didn't for the marine to shoot him. What was he supposed to do? Not report it?

You are kidding right?

What this guy should have done with his 'hot scoop' was hand it over to the proper military authorities and kept his mouth shut until he was given clearance to open it.

Why would he do this? Let's say out of an abundance of caution so as not to hang this young man out to dry in the media, to be sure he had solid footing to report the 'hot scoop' on, TO NOT ENDANGER OUR TROOPS THROUGH WORLD WIDE SHOWING OF THE VIDEO that could be construed just as it is being, by people who WERE NOT IN THE MOSQUE AND WHO HAD NO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE SAFETY OF THEMSELVES AND OTHERS (This would include the embeds).

Kevin Sites failed. Failed miserably as a decent human being, but that usually happens with libs, their sheep clothing slips when they smell blood.

46 posted on 11/17/2004 5:50:04 AM PST by WifeMotherDaughterSister ( Take no prisoners of child abuse terrorists...)
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To: raybbr
He should have given the tape to the OIC and let the Marines interpret the incident. Instead, it was put out on the airwaves and is now being used as propaganda. This is so much like the left to use a 2 dimensional picture to manipulate (ala Rodney King, farenheit 911).

What makes the whole thing even more despicable is that this is at least partially being done for news ratings in a sweeps month.

51 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:55 AM PST by yooling (Go git'em men!)
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To: raybbr

The guy that filmed this also made statements against the Marine. This journalist is a low-life scumbag out to make our troops look bad. You are quite the F'in idiot to blame the President for this incident. Are things slow at DU?


57 posted on 11/17/2004 6:13:47 AM PST by ohioman
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To: raybbr
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy/

No. The footage was reported out of context with the intent to do harm to marines and with the knowlege of incitement. In the big war, this would not have been reported except to the military authorities.

Go to the photographer's web site and see what his intent is.

You are correct though, about whether this bozo should even have been with the squad. Print media, O.K...but not video cameras. In an urban war, these guys are just so much dangerous dead wood for the troops to carry.

58 posted on 11/17/2004 6:14:13 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: raybbr
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy? He didn't for the marine to shoot him. What was he supposed to do? Not report it?

Since the reporter thought that he might have captured a murder committed by a soldier, he has a duty to report it to the proper authorities, and not to turn over key evidence to be broadcast to the entire planet. He IS in the wrong, by both journalistic and military ethics rules. The fact that the US military is being EXCEEDINGLY generous in allowing the reporters to be embedded just makes it that much more offensive for him to rush to report an anti-soldier story.

67 posted on 11/17/2004 6:47:12 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: raybbr
*** What was he supposed to do? Not report it?***

Has it occurred to you he should have just turned the film over to the DOD/Pentagon? OH? He wouldn't become a household name if he had done that? He knew full well as did NBC aka Al Jezeera what he was doing.

69 posted on 11/17/2004 7:10:32 AM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: raybbr
Yeah dip shit why didn't he report the the many acts of heroism he has seen??? Why didn't he report the booby trapped body that killed that Marines friend the day before and the Marine himself being shot? Why was there no rush to get those stories out and all the acts of heroism going on over there.

This really burns me up, along with idiots like you who have never seen a day of combat, go back to DU scum!
98 posted on 11/17/2004 11:10:48 AM PST by hawkiye
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To: raybbr

You're using common sense. That is intensely disliked around here.

Myself, I don't understand why they're so hopped up about it. If the marine did nothing wrong as they say (and that's possible since the investigation isn't done yet) then why are they so mad that the reporter filmed it?

Of course the administration's idea in embedding reporters is the hope to co-opt them. In real life that's just not going to work because in a war zone things tend to happen too fast.


101 posted on 11/17/2004 12:29:20 PM PST by alpowolf
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To: raybbr; alpowolf

>"Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy?"<

Sites had an agenda:



'NBC cameraman an anti-war activist'

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1282484/posts

-"Kevin Sites, the NBC cameraman who shot video of the controversial shooting of a Fallujah insurgent by a U.S. Marine, is an anti-war activist whose photographs of Iraqi prisoners are featured on at least one anti-war website."



Alpowolf to raybbr:
>"You're using common sense. That is intensely disliked around here.

Myself, I don't understand why they're so hopped up about it. If the marine did nothing wrong as they say (and that's possible since the investigation isn't done yet) then why are they so mad that the reporter filmed it?"



Sites didn't have to turn that film in to NBC for filming.
Do you two realize that the day before, this same Marine was shot in the face, and his friend in the same unit was KILLED by a terrorist who BOOOBY TRAPPED his body???

The only people who are not using common sense, are you two.

It's easy for you two to sit here in the comfort of your safe homes, while these guys are getting shot at by terrorists who wave white flags, then pull out weapons and start shooting, they booby trap bodies, and they cut off the hands and feet of even women.


>"Blame the Bush admin. for allowing these guys there in the first place."<

-Blame the Bush administration for what; Islamo-Fascism?
Grow up and get a clue. Both of you.




125 posted on 11/18/2004 8:13:41 AM PST by FBD (bork specter)
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To: raybbr

-Perhaps I misunderstood you, when you said; "Blame the Bush admin. for allowing these guys there in the first place."

-Were you speaking of blaming bush for allowing reporters into the war zone?

If so, you may have a point, but cameramen have always been allowed into battles.

Bush's mistake was thinking that these guys were all LOYAL Americans, and that they would have our soldiers best interest in their filming, especially since the soldiers watch out for the camermen, and protect their ASSES.

Can you imaagine our WWII soldiers being trerated like this?

I guaren-damn-tee you, our WWII guys shot wounded soldiers all the time. It happened with the Germans, and it happened with the Japanese.

It's been known throughout the history of warfare, that a mortally wounded combatant is the most dangerous of all.

The only person that doesn't seem to know that is Kevin Sites, and the rest of the leftie-rats who don't give a rip about our guys in combat.

If this terrorist had been booby-trapped, as his buddies were the day before, then we wouldn't be talking about this would we? No, we would be hearing the report of another dead soldier in Iraq, and this a-hole Kevin Sites would be filming his dead body.

Screw that, and screw camermen who aren't loyal to THIS country, and OUR soldiers.

regards


127 posted on 11/18/2004 8:52:23 AM PST by FBD (bork specter)
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