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To: lmr
lmr wrote:
Doubtful victim here. Perhaps in her own mind she is a victim. I don't believe dusting, mopping and cleaning windows to be degrading if it's honest work for honest pay. Someone's got to do it. Give me a break.

In her own mind she's a victim?!?!

When an organization makes specific moves to relegate people of color to certain positions and whites to others, that's racism, plain and simple. She may be making honest pay for doing honest work, but that doesn't change the fact that she's being put in the position of servant while whites are free from such duties. Somebody's gotta do it, yes, but why aren't those duties distributed fairly amongst all emplyees?

Having known people who've worked at A&F I've long been aware of the particular image they try to create. And while that's fine in the case of hair, makeup, piercings and other forms of personal expression, once you begin making decisions about your "image" on the basis of skin color there's no talking you way out of it. It's racism, end of story.

Maybe it doesn't bother you because you share A&F's POV, but if there's ever to be any real progress, this kind of nonsense has to stop.

24 posted on 11/17/2004 10:20:43 AM PST by wogawoga (Freedom First!)
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To: wogawoga

I did maintenance at McDonald's when I was teenager, that meant cleaning sh*t up, literally. No racism involved, just that someone has to do it. I am in the trash business, do you know how many minorities are trash men? Is it racism, hell no. They are proud of what they do and they make good money. If someone is "too good" to do something and considers it "humilating" and "racist" then that is their problem. I am a sure Abercrombie and Fitch has hundreds of whites doing these same things in many of their locations. Give me a break.


25 posted on 11/17/2004 4:20:50 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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To: wogawoga
I did maintenance at McDonald's when I was teenager, that meant cleaning sh*t up, literally. No racism involved, just that someone has to do it. I am in the trash business, do you know how many minorities are trash men? Is it racism, hell no. They are proud of what they do and they make good money. If someone is "too good" to do something and considers it "humilating" and "racist" then that is their problem. I am a sure Abercrombie and Fitch has hundreds of whites doing these same things in many of their locations. Give me a break.

Alot of people don't like their jobs, what makes me sick is that some of these people scream "racism" because of it.
26 posted on 11/17/2004 4:24:34 PM PST by lmr (John Kerry, Favorite of World Leaders: Castro, Arafat, Kim Jong IL,Chavez and Bin Laden)
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