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To: Paridel
Like I said in my original reply, I saw the video. The marine shot the man instead of going into a no win situation . There was an incident earlier where a marine was killed by a booby trapped body. If these bastards won't play by the rules I have no regret for anything that happens to them. I would do the same thing in any situation and I think you would as well. This crap started in the far left wed pages and now it has made it to the left-media. This soldier will now have his life ruined because of the spineless among us who do not accept that people die in war. We only saw and will see a small portion of the video from this action. We are not there and for the left, the media and any other gutless fruit to make this a scandal is sickening.
466 posted on 11/15/2004 6:46:41 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: satchmodog9
I saw the video too. The islamofascist is apparently breathing and the marine is warned that he's still alive. Rather then having the "dead" islamofascist booby trap him or jump up and shoot him the marine shot first. I think the muj said "bring on the virgins" shortly before the marine accommodated him.
467 posted on 11/15/2004 8:20:19 PM PST by Mojave Mark (The Democrats... gravitas free since '63)
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To: satchmodog9
Like I said in my original reply, I saw the video.

The video was posted on FR a few days ago and the MOD pulled it. It was some lefty website claiming I just saw (emphasis mine) US serviceman kill someone in cold blood. I was pissed the mod pulled the thread. It was no big deal. Some dirtbag got what he had coming.

From your original post I didn't quite get that you had seen the video, I thought you were simply talking about comments you had read on that liberal web site. Rereading your original comment (as linked above) I see now that you had seen the video. I obviously picked the wrong comment to respond to, but your assertion that there was no wrongdoing ties in exactly with the point I was trying to make.

My comments then would be directed not at you but at others posting in this thread, and posters expressing similar sentiments (similar not necessarily to your's, but the aforementioned other posts) elsewhere in free republic. That is, people posting things such as that dirt-bag got what he had coming, and not referring to an individual who the intent and ability to harm a US Soldier, but one that had it coming simply a random individual in Fallujah.

I still maintain that having an attitude of they had it coming rather than one of this story was misrepresented by the liberal media is an dangerous line of reasoning to follow.

There is a need to us to treat terrorists humanely (within reason). Not because they deserve to be treated this way, we really should not even be obligated to treat them as enemy combatants. They are not in uniform and they attack (in fact primarily attack) civilian targets. No, this this is for the same reason there are laws against cruelty to animals. It is to maintain our own respect for the value of human life and dignity. We clearly have the higher moral ground in this situation, but liberals in this country, and the governments and citizens of many other countries who could benefit from America being knocked down a notch, are trying hard to disprove that.

There is no reason to give them the satisfaction of our admitting that we do not have the higher moral ground. I see trying to justify inhumanity to insurgents as doing just that. Especially when there is no need for us to justify anything. Except for a few isolated incidents, that have all to the point been dealt with properly by the US chain of command, Iraqis are being treated equitably and humanly by the US military.

-paridel
471 posted on 11/16/2004 2:08:56 PM PST by Paridel
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To: satchmodog9

Another reporter trying to get a pulitzer prize I am afraid.

The military will look into it, and I will hazard a guess they will exonerate him from any wrong doing.

If he just shot a wounded man for the heck of it, he will be charged, as he should be. But it is much more likely that you have hit the nail on the head...in the heat of combat, he saw a terrorist who he thought was dead, start to move. The Marine thus thought the terrorist was playing dead like the terrorist who shot this same Marine in the face the day before. I have sat on military boards, and we give the benifit of the doubt in these cases to the soldier. It is easy for folks to sit in their living rooms and second guess what soldiers and Marines do in combat, but it is much different to be the one in the line of fire. You have to make a quick call, and he made it. Beneifit of the doubt goes to him until someone can prove different.

But that is different from claiming that we should just kill any wounded terrorist becasue they are getting what they deserve. They in fact are getting what they deserve in those cases, but it also brings us too far down towards their level.


473 posted on 11/16/2004 4:23:04 PM PST by Proud Legions
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