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To: PMCarey

You surely were taught from the Northern History Books.
The North was JUST as guilty. They STARTED the slavery problem in the first place. And most of the soldiers that fought for the Confederacy didn't own slaves. 3 of MY ancestors, for example. As a matter of fact, the only ancestor that DID was my Great-Great-Great Uncle, U.S. GRANT! :)


461 posted on 11/15/2004 12:51:12 PM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
Hey! How are you kin to Grant?

My cousin Julia Dent married him. She, BTW, was the one who brought the slaves to the marriage. She was something like 3rd cousin to my great grandmother - her father moved to Missouri I think - we are the Maryland Dents not the Georgia coast Dents (although they are all from Maryland if you go back far enough.)

463 posted on 11/15/2004 1:05:24 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: TexConfederate1861
You surely were taught from the Northern History Books.

Like many who posted here, I'm a bit of Civil War buff, so I think its disrepectful and disingenious for that old canard, "you were taught from the Northern history books ..." as if one can pretend that slavery was not an issue and probably the most important issue that led to the Civil War.

The North was JUST as guilty. They STARTED the slavery problem in the first place.

How can a section of the country which outlawed slavery be just a guilty for the institution of slavery as the section which practiced it and sought to perpetuate it to the territories? As for who STARTED the slavery problem, I think you have to go back to Ug the caveman who found that he could make another do his work (provided he had the bigger club.)

And most of the soldiers that fought for the Confederacy didn't own slaves. 3 of MY ancestors, for example.

Never said otherwise, in fact I was very careful to not state that.

As a matter of fact, the only ancestor that DID was my Great-Great-Great Uncle, U.S. GRANT!

True enough. Grant's wife Julia owned four slaves at different parts of her life (before the Civil War) and Grant himself owned one from 1858-59. Interestingly enough Grant freed his slave though he could have sold him for about $1,000. At this time Grant was in significant financial straits, but was unwilling to sell another human being. Grant was not an abolitionist and wrote in 1863:

"I never was an abolitionist, not even what could be called anti-slavery, but I try to judge fairly and honestly and it became patent in my mind early in the rebellion that the North and South could never live at peace with each other except as one nation, and that without slavery. As anxious as I am to see peace established, I would not therefore be willing to see any settlement until the question is forever settled."

I guess Grant was taught by the Northern history books too because there he is linking the Civil War to slavery. On the other hand since he lived through that period of time, was NOT an abolitionist, and had familial ties to the South - well maybe he just might have known more than you do about the connection between the Civil War and slavery. Now go back to your "Southern" history books ...

465 posted on 11/15/2004 1:30:35 PM PST by PMCarey
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