[motor_racer]

Ronald Wilson Reagan

[DixieOklahoma]

First, it is Southron and US. Grant got his butt whupped by Robert E. Lee all over the field. I have studied all history, and Robert E. Lee is in the ranks of Napolian (Spelling?).

It is unimaginable that somebody would consider US Grant on par with Robert E Lee. The command of both Northern and Southern forces was offered to Lee but historically Lee said "I cannot turn my back on my country (Virginia)"

The north throughout the war was better equipped, had vastly larger armies , supply routes and still even in nearly every victory took more casulities than the south (when fighting Lee).

I would also consider Stonewall Jackson to be up there as a great commander.. the way he would suck on a lemon during battle and stand almost arrogant in battle is amazing. At the virginia military institute each year on graduation night, his grave is peppered with lemons.

No Grant was not a great military leader, very few Northern Generals were... the only mistake Lee made was at gettysburg because he believed the south was invensible at that point. He should have withdrawn and marched to Washington DC.

However, for effectiveness, The only thing that saved the north in the civil war was the schorched earth tactics undertaken by U.S. Grant. Northern soldiers were fat and Southern soldiers were starving and without ammunition but we still racked up more kills... we just ran out of people (smaller population). And with USG burning every single crop and confiscating food/southern women the south was doomed desipte the far superior tactics of Lee.

[Uncledave]

General Dukakis, hands down.

[JediForce]

General Han Solo, General Obi Wan Konobi, Luke Skywalker...

[NorCalRepub]

don't forget the Navy..........
Adm. Nimitz - kicking the hell out of the Japs all across the Pacific.....with all that ocean it was a logistic triumph.......
Adm. Nelson.........greatest Adm. of the British Admiralty

[Minus_The_Bear]

Patton - Struck fear into the Hitler's armies

King Leonidias of Sparta - Stood with 300 against the Persian army

Alexander - Conquered the known world

Sherman - Brutal

[StoneFury]

Guderian (not the best, but one of them)

[Little Bill]

Basil II, Manstein, Hannibal, Marius.

[asgardshill]

Scipio Africanus (great basics, great motivator)

Charlemagne. He was not only a divider (of the enemy's head from his shoulders), but a uniter as well.

The Duke of Wellington (took out Napoleon)

Sun Tzu (maybe not strictly a commander, but he talked a great game)

Patton (50,000 more gallons of diesel and he would have been in Berlin playing mumbledy-peg with Hitler).

And speaking of Napoleon, that little Corsican pipsqueak is definitely NOT on this list.

[Gritty]

Put George Washington way up there.

He was not only a great commander who fought an almost hopeless war against nearly hopeless odds both at home and abroad, but a beloved leader who then set the standard to found the most inspiring and unusual country the world has ever experienced.

This world would be a far different and meaner place today without his august presence.

[Norman Bates]

George S. Patton

[dogbyte12]

Pharoah Thutmosis III.

He was Alexander the Great, before Alexander the great.

[Ironfocus]

Montgomery, Christiaan de Wet.

[Defiant]

Alexander, Ghengis, Hannibal, Guderian. Honorable mention for some great campaigns to Sherman and Grant, Ceasar, Napolean, Chief Joseph, Cortez and I'm sure many others that I am forgetting off the top of my head. Sun Tsu laid down principles that still stand, and Liddell Hart made them more modern.

With the rise of computers and war gaming, the strategies employed by the US military in its latest campaigns are as good as any ever employed in history. Gulf War I, Afghanistan and Iraq are instant classics, and Fallujah is just the latest example. These don't get credited to a single individual, so we don't have our Alexander, but our strategy is just as good.

[bubman]

Hannibal, Caesar, Salladin, El Cid, Cortez there are so many

[isom35]

in the future, Capt. Kirk.

[Arioch7]

Well, I would put Alexander on that list. I'm not sure that Grant should be on there. I think he is underrated but I don't think of him as great.

I don't think I saw Hannibal on there. "Chesty" Puller should be on there.

Gunther Guderion should definately be on there. There are a few Soviet Generals that I can't remember the names for. Sukhorov maybe?

Someone mentioned Genghis. What about Kublai Khan and Subotai.

Sun-Tsu should be in there somewhere for military thought in any event.

Lord Nelson. John Paul Jones. Admiral Farragut.

That's about it for now. I will think of more.

Arioch7 out.

[Alouette]

Moshe Dayan.

Even though he made a HUGE tactical mistake in handing over the Temple Mount to the bandits who defiled it.

[Bonaparte]

Alesander the Great
Ghenghis Khan
Caesar
Napoleon
Marlborough
Frederick the Great
Turenne
Eugene of Savoy
Gustavus Adolphus
Charlemagne

[Rastus]

Benedict Arnold did a marvelous job until he turned traitor.