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Ads to Back Schwarzenegger Presidential Bid
Fox News ^ | 11/14/04 | Megan Dowd

Posted on 11/14/2004 4:34:09 PM PST by rocksblues

The cable television ads, set to begin running Monday, are from a Silicon Valley-based group that wants to amend the U.S. Constitution (search), which limits the presidency to natural U.S. citizens. Those who obtain their citizenship at birth are referred to as natural citizens, while those who become citizens after birth are referred to as naturalized citizens. Schwarzenegger was born in Austria but became a U.S. citizen in 1983.

"You cannot choose the land of your birth. You can choose the land you love," Lissa Morgenthaler-Jones (search) says in the ads.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ads; america; arnoldforpresident; citizenship; foreignborn; republic; survival
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To: Hessian

That's not what I said. The age requirement would remain, but would be joined by a 20 year citizenship requirement.

Explain the how a natural born citizen is better than a citizen such as Arnold, with 20 or more years as a citizen?


22 posted on 11/14/2004 4:46:17 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: rocksblues

me thinks the whole thing is stoopid


23 posted on 11/14/2004 4:46:52 PM PST by bluebeak (Bad grammar and spelling just to drive people nuts!)
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To: rocksblues
Voted for, and still support Arnold. But this is embarrassing
24 posted on 11/14/2004 4:48:16 PM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Prime Choice

I'm with you. Such an amendment only invites trouble.


25 posted on 11/14/2004 4:48:19 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rocksblues

This story has been posted at least a dozen times in the last few days. Bottomline. The Constitution won't be changed just for Arnold. Ain't gonna happen. The American people will not support such an amendment.


26 posted on 11/14/2004 4:48:24 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: rocksblues
"You cannot choose the land of your birth. You can choose the land you love,"

Hmmm... how about the choice to be born?

Arnold can best serve this country right where he's at.
I think he knows this too.
27 posted on 11/14/2004 4:49:08 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: thangdatrang
Besides, we haven't even had a black or other minority president yet

Excellent Point! I myself am waiting for an American Indian that is not beholden to the Democrats.

28 posted on 11/14/2004 4:49:13 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: rocksblues

Bad idea, especially in this time of US borders being overrun by millions of foreigners.


29 posted on 11/14/2004 4:50:42 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: Military family member
>>>>The reasons behind the original phrasing in the Constitution have been over for more than 200 years.

Bull. The Founders knew exactly what they were doing. The Constitution has worked fine for 228 years and counting. We don't need to amend it so some egotisical Austrian citizen and political liberal can screw with the greatest governing document ever produced by mankind.

30 posted on 11/14/2004 4:52:35 PM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Reagan Man

My gut told me that too. But then on Fox and Friends this a.m. they were talking and that (I cannot think of the anchor's name the blond guy) and one of the other anchors thought it was a good idea. I was shocked.


31 posted on 11/14/2004 4:52:44 PM PST by PersonalLiberties (An honest politician is one who, when he's bought, stays bought. -Simon Cameron, political boss)
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To: rocksblues
NO way, nuh uh! We need to put a stop to this before it gains steam folks. We've enough people who are natives that have questionable loyalty to the U.S.A., we don't need a CIC with foreign ties.

If this goes through I bet that we would have a Mexican born CIC within 20 years.

32 posted on 11/14/2004 4:52:59 PM PST by yooling (Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!)
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To: dougherty

Soros would definately run and spend all his $7 BILLION $$$ to get elected.


33 posted on 11/14/2004 4:52:59 PM PST by soccer_linux_mozilla (Economic growth through limited government and lower taxes!)
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To: Military family member
Explain the how a natural born citizen is better than a citizen such as Arnold, with 20 or more years as a citizen?

After 55 million people voted for a 20th Century traitor and was never asked a question about his late 60's and early 70's or middle 80's activities I question your agenda!

34 posted on 11/14/2004 4:53:22 PM PST by rocksblues (No more Kerry, no more polls!)
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To: rocksblues

I can't imagine having the gall to ask America to amend the constitution for me. What an ego.


35 posted on 11/14/2004 4:53:25 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: TomGuy
Why did the founding fathers exclude foreign-born? It was a plan--as self-serving as many of the other ammendments--to exclude certain people living in the 13 colonies at that time.

Those people are dead. We allow naturalized citizens to vote, run for every other office in the land, and even die, for this country. Why not lead it?

Hasn't an individual who has lived 20 years or more in this country, plus made a name for himself or herself large enough to receive enough attention to even be considered, proven their dedication to this country?

Sure, don't give the same right to everyone stepping off a plan or boat. We current ask for seven years of residency for citizenship...why not say, fine, you live here for 20 years as a citizen, meet the age requirements, and you can run for president.

I've yet to see good arguments against this idea. And please, don't throw out, "The framers of the constitution knew best," because they didn't. Not always. Remember, these are the same framers who allowed for slavery, decided only white men should vote, among other things.

Clearly slavery was wrong, and cleary women and people other than white men deserve to vote. Why not this?

36 posted on 11/14/2004 4:55:21 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: rocksblues

If you are talking about Kerry, then giving Arnold a chance proves my point, not yours.


37 posted on 11/14/2004 4:56:20 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: Military family member
Explain the how a natural born citizen is better than a citizen such as Arnold, with 20 or more years as a citizen?

I don't think that's the problem. I think the problem is that such an amendment would give foreign interests and powers a greater opportunity to exert influence on our political system. The next John Kerry might really BE from France! And I really don't want the liberals here threatening to find a more acceptable, European-born, American citizen to run for the Office of President.

38 posted on 11/14/2004 4:57:00 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Reagan Man

Bull yourself. The framers of the Constitution were all fine men, but they set up a system that support themselves and those like them. Again, remember that much of the original Constitution extended rights essentially only to White Men.

Read Madison's notes


39 posted on 11/14/2004 4:58:32 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: infidel29

Colts are 6 and 3 so Far!!!


40 posted on 11/14/2004 4:59:26 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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