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To: Qwinn
... but I am forever unable to consider myself a Heinlein fan after having read the godawful, brain-numbing "Number of the Beast".

I am a Heinlein fan, and I have read just about everything he has ever written. But, I have to admit, he lost me somewhere in "Number of the Beast." One too many reality hops for my poor, feeble brain. LOL.

47 posted on 11/13/2004 1:16:38 PM PST by weaponeer
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To: weaponeer

Heheheh. Alright, I'm going to say it, after which I'm sure I'll be stoned as a heretic (on this thread, anyway).

Heinlein occassionally produced a novel worth reading, and while I haven't read Troopers yet, I have seen and enjoyed the movie and the animated series and from what I've heard of some of the sociological ideas expressed in it, it sounds like a worthwhile read. I'll get to it one of these days.

But as a consistently good sci-fi writer, Larry Niven runs circles around him. I'd even put Orson Scott Card higher on my list.

And as for fantasy? Roger Zelazny.

Okay. Let the stoning begin.

Qwinn


53 posted on 11/13/2004 1:25:10 PM PST by Qwinn
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To: weaponeer; Qwinn
I am a Heinlein fan, and I have read just about everything he has ever written. But, I have to admit, he lost me somewhere in "Number of the Beast." One too many reality hops for my poor, feeble brain. LOL.

Shortly after Number of the Beast was published, he had a "Transient Ischemic Attack," which is, essentially, a precursor to a stroke. Looking back at that book, it's easy to see that he was having problems while writing it.

73 posted on 11/13/2004 1:44:15 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: weaponeer
"Number of the Beast."

I don't think it was your feeble brain. I think it was jump the shark. An earlier poster said Heinlein got loony. As a certified Heinlein fan, I have to say I agree. He really started recycling the same stuff. This criticism does not detract from the wonderful body of work he did create.

83 posted on 11/13/2004 2:23:38 PM PST by Samwise (This day does not belong to one man but to all. --Aragorn)
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To: weaponeer
I am a Heinlein fan, and I have read just about everything he has ever written. But, I have to admit, he lost me somewhere in "Number of the Beast." One too many reality hops for my poor, feeble brain. LOL.

You want to talk about confused! I read Number of the Beast BEFORE reading any of this other books featuring Lazarus Long!

I think that my favorite moment in that book was at the very end, where Harlan (Ellison) sets a trap for all the literary critics! lol

Mark

98 posted on 11/13/2004 4:21:29 PM PST by MarkL (Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!)
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