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To: badmrbunny

LOL

No one on this thread who has said that this is a Holocaust(or worse) has been able to merely answer straight out. According to any law in the US, were Jews being dragged off the street and executed we'd be empowered to stop it with lethal force.

So, if this is WORSE(lol) than that, certainly they support killing abortion doctors, nurses, those financing abortions(meaning the fathers or families) Right? Bring the troops home, Fight the war on abortion!

Even where it's illegal, abortion does not go away--fact is, it will likely never go away though we can REDUCE the demand and limit the time frame in which they occur.


93 posted on 11/13/2004 7:43:23 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: Skywalk
I tend to agree with you..

While I would encourage all to choose life, rather than abortion, I fail to see the wisdom of forcing anyone..

Just as prohibition did not work for alcohol, prohibition will not work for abortion.
People will do what they feel is right for them, whether it is against the law or not.

And I will not force a victim of rape or incest (which is almost always,also rape) to go through 9 months of forced torture simply for the sake of the child. (especially in the case of incest, where often the mother is still a child herself )

The only true answer is a broad socially conscious change in attitude toward, and responsibility for the creation of life.
One way of doing that is to stop being so publicly "understanding" of people who choose to abort.
We must stress the importance of life without threat, but still refusing to condone it as a correct choice.
We must make people understand that abortion, simply for "convenience" is an immoral, despicable, sinful choice.
And we must hammer that into the skulls of everyone we meet, whenever the subject arises..

When enough people change the way they think about the unborn, and begin to respect the promise of new life, and then take responsibility for bringing it into this world, and protecting and raising it to adulthood, there will be no need for laws against abortion.
It just won't happen very often..

140 posted on 11/13/2004 8:08:31 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Skywalk
According to any law in the US, were Jews being dragged off the street and executed we'd be empowered to stop it with lethal force.

But according to German law under the Nazis we would NOT be empowered to stop it with lethal force. It was all so legal and the Nazis tried to make the extermination as legal, clean and efficient as possible so as not to offend the sensitivities of the citizenry. Much like abortion in the U.S. today.

142 posted on 11/13/2004 8:11:20 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Skywalk

Dear Skywalk,

I certainly support the criminalization of committing the crime of abortion. It is murder for hire. Abortionists are serial- and mass-murderers. Although I am reluctant to prescribe the death penalty in general, for these, it is the appropriate punishment. I wholly endorse laws that prescribe, in every case without exception, execution for those who regularly perform abortions.

But there is a difference between public application of law and private action in lieu of law. One is justice, the other is vigilantism. I generally oppose vigilantism. I do believe in trying to change unjust laws, to make them more just. We have a political system that permits this.

Germany under the Nazis did not have such a political system.

To suggest that we pro-lifers, to be consistent, must go out and become vigilantes is to elide over several issues. As long as the potential for peaceful change is available in our country, we may not justly take arms against the law.

There were once laws that, as interpreted, permitted white men to kill black "property," usually with complete impunity. Nonetheless, this horror did not provide license to seek private retribution against the killers, or against those who, in law, protected them.

As long as we have a political system which permits peaceful change, we may not legitimately act as vigilantes, as to do so would be to become revolutionaries. If we were, in large numbers, to resort to violence, it would mean two things: First, that we had rejected the legitimacy of the American state; second, that America would become engaged again in civil war.

Failing to accept the delegitimation of the American state and wishing to avoid civil war do not make pro-lifers inconsistent, only prudent, cautious, and rational. It is not our goal to replace one evil with another.


sitetest


148 posted on 11/13/2004 8:16:18 AM PST by sitetest
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