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To: narses
Both lives are equally important.

So, which one do YOU save?
You're obviously not giving the choice to the mother, as your position is that if she chooses life over her child's, she is a murderer..

You cite a saint as an example..
Have you noticed the rarity of saints in the general population?
Not everybody is a saint.. Most of us are just everyday humans..

the choice is to kill or not

You mean Murder, don't you?
You made a distinction between killing and murder..
Yes, emphatically yes to all of the above

Since the unborn child cannot make an informed choice of self-sacrafice, every effort ought to be made to save BOTH lives

The unborn child cannot make ANY choice, informed or otherwise..
Only the parents can make that choice, with the consent of the doctor(s) and in keeping with the law..

But again, there's that thing.. every effort ought to be made to save BOTH lives

You've got to make a CHOICE..
WHO LIVES ? WHO DIES ?

We're not talking "hypotheticals" here..
We're talking In the delivery room.
The mother had already made the decision to have the baby, but now there are complications.
While every effort will be made to save both, someone is going to have to make a choice, to save one or the other..
In your perfect world, the mother dies, every time.. whether she wants to or not..
She is effectively, murdered.
Her "choice" to live is taken away..

This was my mother's choice, to live or die..
She chose death for herself and life for the child..( her 9th one, by the way )
Luckily, both DID survive..
That happened 40 years ago, to my youngest sister.
I do not take this lightly..

You don't seem to have a very reasoned respect for Life in general though..
You're more than willing to "Kill" for God and country, you don't seem to have a problem with Law enforcement "killing" people to enforce the law, You've got no problem with "killing" someone if they threaten YOUR Life, or that of your family..
You believe that capital punishment is "Okey Dokey", because "Murder" is bad..
I guess "executing" rapists is allright with you, since we're not using the words "murder" or "killing".. and it's the law...
Yet, that rapist will go to meet his maker, knowing that his progeny will survive.. in his victims.. which may very well have been his intent all along..

Good life, Bad Life, oh, where do we make the distinction?

Who lives, and who dies? and who makes the decision?

452 posted on 11/13/2004 11:09:01 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Drammach

Your mother made the correct moral choice.

"You don't seem to have a very reasoned respect for Life in general though.. "

Rest assured, I do. It is congruent with that of the Church. That YOU have trouble with it, just as you have trouble understanding abortion = evil bothers me not at all.

Now, how about YOU answering the questions I posed to you?


599 posted on 11/13/2004 1:27:12 PM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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