[Spiff]

Why don't you then address the facts and figures in the article, rather than attacking the source? What you just did amounts to a concession of the facts stated in the article.

I concede nothing to the New York Times. I refuse to read their garbage. You can't trust ANYTHING they say. They make up what they want to make up, spin things to support their leftist agenda, etc. They have no credibility - using their numbers, articles, statements, etc. is worthless to your argument.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's difficult to find the truth with your eyes squeezed shut.

[Amelia]

I concede nothing to the New York Times. I refuse to read their garbage.