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To: cpforlife.org
I would love to see a Human Life Amendment to the Constitution pass. But it's not realistically possible.

Let me ask you this - do you think that it's not realistically possible to expect a Republican Congress to even introduce a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment and to have a debate and an up or down vote on the resolution? Is it really too early to even start a legistlative dialogue on the issue of abortion?

Abortion is an important issue to a lot of people. Roe v. Wade has stifled meaningful, comprehensive debate on the issue of abortion. People who feel strongly about this issue are not going to feel that our system provides legitimate political mechanisms for change if they cannot even be heard to debate the issue in our legislative chambers.

Isn't there anyone in the Congressional leadership who is even willing to introduce a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment?

I am aware that Congress has power to regulate the jurisdiction of federal courts, but abortions cannot be prevented by a total absence of any future court decisions.

The mistake of Roe v. Wade was that it removed abortion from our ordinary political processes. Win or lose, people have a right to a political debate on this issue. Why wouldn't the introduction of a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment be a good way to reintroduce abortion to our political process?

170 posted on 11/13/2004 8:40:37 AM PST by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Scenic Sounds

Felt I needed to comment on those who try to downplay the need to end the abortion holocaust using the war against the Islamist terrorists as an excuse.

Abortionists and terrorists are of the same spirit.

My personal mission statement:

"Renewing an America that reveres God, respects life and enjoys liberty."

Those who lose their fear of God soon lose their respect and regard for those that He made in His Image...and are well on the way to losing all of the liberties they enjoy.

To oppose the killing of tiny babies in the womb is to be pro-life.

To oppose those who would play God and kill the aged and the infirm is be pro-life.

Opposing terrorists who kill the innocent in pursuit of their ideology is a pro-life act.

It's all the same war.


193 posted on 11/13/2004 8:55:03 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Scenic Sounds; All
"Let me ask you this - do you think that it's not realistically possible to expect a Republican Congress to even introduce a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment and to have a debate and an up or down vote on the resolution?"

IT IS NOT REMOTELY POSSIBLE, PERIOD

"Is it really too early to even start a legislative duologue on the issue of abortion?"

Legislation is in the house RIGHT NOW that if enacted into law would have the same effect as a Human Life Amendment and only needs a simple majority to pass.

From http://www.cpforlife.org/id128
Introduction to and explanation of:
The Life-Protecting Judicial Limitation Act of 2003


The Life-Protecting Judicial Limitation Act of 2003[1] - Amends the Federal judicial code to deny the district courts of the United States, the District Court of Guam, the District Court of the Virgin Islands, the District Court for the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Court of Federal Claims jurisdiction to hear or determine any abortion-related case.

It was introduced in the U.S. House on April 1, 2003 and currently has only 3 cosponsors.

FaxNotes May 2003[2] gives a short description of this proposed legislation and Jan 2004 FaxNotes[3] states, "If legal protection of the right to life is to be restored in the United States it will take a majority of Members of the U.S. House and Senate who will exercise their powers under the U.S. Constitution to withdraw jurisdiction from the Courts over these matters," which is assumed to be an allusion to the Life-Protecting Judicial Limitation Act of 2003.

The Republican National Coalition for Life appears to be the only pro-life organization that is aware of H. R. 1546. This proposed legislation was also introduced by Rep. Ron Paul, M.D. in 1999 and 2002, yet pro-life organizations remain unaware, or opposed to the bill.

Jurisdiction removal from federal district Courts removes appellate jurisdiction from the U.S. Supreme court. H. R. 1546 fails to remove U.S. Supreme Court appellate jurisdiction over State Supreme Courts, (see George W. Bush, Et Al., Petitioners V Albert Gore, Jr., Et Al.) and wouldn't prevent a State law from being nullified on appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court, which appears to be the only flaw in the present version of bill. (U.S. Constitution, Article III, §1 and §2, permits Congress to strip ALL appellate jurisdiction from the U.S. Supreme Court.)

Nevertheless, the bill is a major step in restoring Federalism as described in Federalist No. 39 and comports with the incremental strategy accepted by most pro-life organizations. Additionally, the concept of the bill could be incorporated into a Right To Life Amendment for the U.S. Constitution, returning the issue to the States as it was prior to Roe v. Wade.

American Life League News, 10/31/03[4], states, "Now that President Bush has promised to sign the partial birth abortion bill into law, the court challenge will not be far behind." How right that turned out to be - "less than one hour after the president signed the legislation, a federal judge in Nebraska - U.S. District Judge Richard Kopf, appointed in 1992 by Mr. Bush's father - issued a limited temporary restraining order against the law."[5] PPFA & Planned Parenthood of Golden Gate filed a lawsuit in a San Francisco federal court Oct. 31, and The National Abortion Federation filed a suit in New York on the same grounds. In both cases, the judge ruled in favor of the plaintiffs and imposed a temporary injunction on the ban. Had the Life-Protecting Judicial Limitation Act of 2003 been the law of the land, the lawless federal courts would have had to dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction. They could no more hear the case than a Tennessee traffic court could hear a case involving a Cuban speedster in Havana. PPFA, Planned Parenthood, and The National Abortion Federation would experience the unmitigated horror of having their precious lawsuit aborted by a federal judge.

Once pro-lifers experience the Constitutional power that Congress has over the federal courts - "politicians who only want to focus on one manner of murder so that they could claim enough pro-life credentials to guarantee re-election" - will no longer be able to hide behind the long flowing robes of federal judges, like the small child who hides behind the long dress of his mother when frightened. Subsequent legislation to silence the U.S. Supreme Court and State Supreme Courts, will no longer be met with the frightened exclamation by the politician who states, "but what about the Courts!" The heat of the electoral spotlight will be focused exactly where it needs to be: The 'pro-life' politician, not the unaccountable pro-murder judge.

Population Connection, formerly Zero Population Growth, in the Fall 2003 edition of "The Reporter"[6], called the existence of H. R. 1546, "frightening," and went on to state that the bill had no chance of becoming law. With abortionists opposing the bill and pro-lifers doing nothing to support it, their prediction will prove to be 100% correct.

It has been stated that H. R. 1546 needs to be explained in an article. A question/answer format with Rep. Ron Paul, M.D. (TX), or Dr. Herbert W. Titus, Senior Legal Advisor to The Liberty Committee[7], of which Dr. Paul is chairman, may be suitable for Celebrate Life Magazine[8], FaxNotes, and other Pro-Life groups.




                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           

With much thanks to Professor Remedy.

195 posted on 11/13/2004 8:55:39 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Isn't there anyone in the Congressional leadership who is even willing to introduce a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment?

Alan Keyes would've done it, if he'd gotten elected.

219 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:21 AM PST by Amelia
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