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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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To: Skywalk

Dictatorship?

Is that what the Democratic Party of the United States is?

Those are the people who will win if the Republicans do not support pro-life judges and the pro-life voters stay home.

Not dictators. Not communists. American Democrats.

A dictatorship? Laughable.

That's not what's at stake. It's a fantasy straw man.

What is at stake, on the one side, is winning the War on Terror, reasonable tax laws, an ownership society, the whole Republican agenda, and the end of the Holocaust of Infants.

And on the other side, is the loss of the Republican agenda because the Republicans betrayed a core constituency.

Nobody would be worried about this now were Arlen Specter not about to take over Judiciary. Pro-lifers trust President Bush and the Republican Party, now.

Rather than fight about this and march out the parade of the horribles, the easy, sensible thing is for the Republicans to do exactly what they campaigned on and promised: elevate the pro-life judges. That means getting Specter out of the way and using the nuclear option.

There is nothing hard about this at all.
The only reason that the crack has opened is because the Republicans are, mysteriously, allowing Specter to take over Judiciary. This is offensive and idiotic.


21 posted on 11/13/2004 6:50:27 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: cpforlife.org
What is our nuclear option?

In my opinion, it is to help the UNDECIDED people of Pennsylvania mount a RECALL of Senator Arlen Specter.

That might give a DRAFT BOB CASEY, JR petition a chance as well.

And then Pat Toomey may be entered in the race.

But the next step is, if the President and Republican Caucus decides to back Arlen Specter -- then Arlen Specter must be removed.

22 posted on 11/13/2004 6:50:44 AM PST by topher
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To: Vicomte13

your threats drown out every good point you make. i wish we had better spokesmen than you- you set back the cause of eliminating abortion with your facist approach.


23 posted on 11/13/2004 6:51:08 AM PST by badmrbunny (delicious results . 4 more....)
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To: cpforlife.org

Single-issue sermon!


24 posted on 11/13/2004 6:52:09 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Skywalk
"This is why a few pro-life people really are not conservatives except on that issue. That you'd betray the principles of the party for ONE issue(ANY issue) says a lot, I think."

You don't even know what conservative is, it has nothing to do with libertine freedom payed for by the blood of the innocent. That you are more loyal to a political party than the murder of innocence says everything.

25 posted on 11/13/2004 6:52:20 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: Vicomte13

I say that abortions should be outlawed for conservatives and then forced upon liberals (even retroactive abortions). After awhile, there won't be any liberals left. Who cares if stinkin liberals kill there own!


26 posted on 11/13/2004 6:54:30 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: kjvail

I'm not loyal to a political party, I'm loyal to my own beliefs which do not have abortion as THE centerpiece. It is one of many issues. And in all honesty, no matter what ONE party does, there will be opposition, I'd rather press forward the advantage on issues that conservatives and other rightists can achieve as primary objectives.


27 posted on 11/13/2004 6:55:01 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: MindBender26
I would remind you that if we do not will the war against radical Islam, abortion will cease to be an issue for Christians, because all the Christians will be dead.

Are you sure that they wouldn't rather enslave us and force our conversions to Islam than kill us outright?

Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!

I agree, but I see it differently. Since September 2001 less than 6,000 Americans lost their lives due to Islamic militantism while over 4,000,000 Americans lost their lives to abortionists during the same period. The most threatening weapon that the the Islamicists have against us isn't a WMD but rather our own self-inflicted low birth rate. Most of northern Europe has a negative native birthrate (only Muslim Albania is positive). France is almost 10% Muslim today and is projected to have a Muslim majority within the century, with the other European nations not far behind. The Islamicists don't need to destroy us, we are destroying ourselves. If we truly fear the clear threat that Islam poses, we need to think longer term.

28 posted on 11/13/2004 6:58:14 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: cpforlife.org

Prolife ping!


29 posted on 11/13/2004 6:59:28 AM PST by Motherbear (I can always count on a dem for a good laugh...or a migraine!)
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To: cpforlife.org

Keep me on your list. Excellent article!!! Save our babies.


30 posted on 11/13/2004 7:01:23 AM PST by cubreporter
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Dear Ronaldus Magnus,

"The most threatening weapon that the the Islamicists have against us isn't a WMD but rather our own self-inflicted low birth rate."

Hmmm... So what you're saying is that the thing we have most to fear is not death directly at the hands of the Islamocfacist pigs, but our own aborting self-destruction.

Interesting insight.


sitetest


31 posted on 11/13/2004 7:02:33 AM PST by sitetest (Why would we wish to trade our birthright for this thin gruel?)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I agree, but I see it differently. Since September 2001 less than 6,000 Americans lost their lives due to Islamic militantism while over 4,000,000 Americans lost their lives to abortionists during the same period. The most threatening weapon that the the Islamicists have against us isn't a WMD but rather our own self-inflicted low birth rate. Most of northern Europe has a negative native birthrate (only Muslim Albania is positive). France is almost 10% Muslim today and is projected to have a Muslim majority within the century, with the other European nations not far behind. The Islamicists don't need to destroy us, we are destroying ourselves. If we truly fear the clear threat that Islam poses, we need to think longer term.

Dead on.

If the "Christian" West doesn't eliminate atrocity it doesn't deserver to survive.

32 posted on 11/13/2004 7:03:11 AM PST by kjvail (Judica me Deus, et discerne causam meam de gente non sancta)
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To: cpforlife.org

BUMP!


33 posted on 11/13/2004 7:03:18 AM PST by NewCenturions
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To: Skywalk; motife

Nutjobs they are indeed. I wish the old Communist Romania was still in operation, so we could send them there to live in the kind of society they'd like. Contraception was illegal, abortion was illegal, and women who didn't have babies were forced to undergo medical examinations to prove they hadn't been doing anything to avoid having babies. The state controlled all jobs and housing, and handed them out to loyal Communist baby-makers only. All so the Great Communist State could have more workers and soldiers to fulfill ITS objectives. The fact that the people wanted to starve the Great Communist State, and wanted to spare children from the horrific life it provided, was irrelevant; the people existed only to serve the state, and what they wanted didn't matter a whit.


34 posted on 11/13/2004 7:03:25 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Skywalk
But without us nutjobs you could have... nothing. We came out in droves for 3 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES. You who believe in no compromise with the evil of terrorism, no compromise with the evil of communism, no compromise with the haters of freedom msut recognize that we believe in no compromise with the evil of the culture of death, the culture of SATAN. Fundie nutjob I may be but I talked to people and put up Bush/Cheney signs (over and over) and did my tiny part to re-elect the president.

In return we get a pro-choice AG and chastisement from fiscal conservatives/ social libertarians and the absolute disdain of the lagacy media. We don't mind being denigrated but if our labor is in vain we can and will redirect our efforts to something or someone else.

35 posted on 11/13/2004 7:03:29 AM PST by Aloysius88 (Fundie nutjob for Christ)
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To: Vicomte13

Well spoke, brother.


36 posted on 11/13/2004 7:05:29 AM PST by Aloysius88 (Fundie nutjob for Christ)
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To: MindBender26

"Survival of us as a people and US as a country is more important, right now!"

There will be no survival for countries that continue to murder their own children. 9/11 was just a warning - God will not be mocked.

He used the Arab nations to bring judgement upon Israel for its infidelities - He will do the same for the countries of the West which genuflect at the altar of Moloch.


37 posted on 11/13/2004 7:06:19 AM PST by Tantumergo
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To: Vicomte13; kjvail; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
There still is a real possibility that the Senate Republicans might cave and appoint specter Chairman. Many Senators do not appreciate the seriousness of the message that we have been sending and some don't care.

I propose that Vicomte13's letter here be used as a basis for continued Faxes and emails to the Senate Republicans.

I am finished with the niceties when communicating to the Senate on specter. They work for us DAMN IT.

I think communications on Specter should take a more grave tone as in Vicomte13's "WARNING"

If Vicomte13 would grant permission and Freepers asked I would be happy to create a Printer Friendly copy and post for downloading.

38 posted on 11/13/2004 7:06:58 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: motife; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...
Crazy people. Only issue my rear end.

Crazy eh? 4,000 dead babies daily is CRAZY?

39 posted on 11/13/2004 7:07:50 AM PST by narses (The fight to protect the unborn is THE civil rights battle of the 21st century. + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: cpforlife.org; latina4dubya; EdReform

Bump and ping.


40 posted on 11/13/2004 7:09:49 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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