PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

[EternalVigilance]

You draw a false dichotomy between Evangelicals and others.

'Hispanic(s), security moms, married men and blacks'...are all pro-life too, you know.

The overwhelming majority of Republicans are pro-life, in fact.

I watched Arlen Specter claim on national television yesterday that half of the Republican Party was 'pro-choice'. I wanted to puke.

[UpToHere]

I wonder how God feels about it

I thought you knew.

[Spiff]

In fact, Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; do you suppose they will demand something "or else?"

Yes, the Catholic, pro-life vote also contributed to George Bush's victory. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Luis Gonzalez]

[Howlin]

We did turn out in big numbers and no matter how many articles from the leftist subversive New York Times that you post won't change that fact.

No you didn't; no matter how many times you say it to further your agenda.

[Spiff]

Why don't you then address the facts and figures in the article, rather than attacking the source? What you just did amounts to a concession of the facts stated in the article.

I concede nothing to the New York Times. I refuse to read their garbage. You can't trust ANYTHING they say. They make up what they want to make up, spin things to support their leftist agenda, etc. They have no credibility - using their numbers, articles, statements, etc. is worthless to your argument.

[cpforlife.org]

Hey AR,

Didn't you recieve the invitation to this party?! Come on over! LOL

[Luis Gonzalez]

So, when all those Hispanics Catholics voted Democrat in the past, they were pro-choice?

[Kuksool]

[You're the ones demanding that Bush do what you say or you'll leave the party.]

Here we go again. The timeless debate on FR. For every unappeaseable President Bush loses, he gains 2 swing voters. This forumla is the reason why the GOP controls the White House and Congress.

[Howlin]

Abortion was NOT the key issue in this election.

There certainly are many diverse groups who are pro-life; but it's only the Evangelicals who are now claiming that they are OWED something in return for a huge turnout that didn't materialize or they will take their votes elsewhere.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's difficult to find the truth with your eyes squeezed shut.

[buddyholly]

I am pro-life; but I detest one issue voters who constantly DEMAND that their views be put in front of everybody else's "or else."



Here here. Threats are not the way to convince people in this country. This lesson has been demonstrated for us by the liberals time and time again. can anyone say "gay marriage?"

[kjvail]

You readily admitted yourself, that prior to Roe, women were having abortions illegally.. often at the cost of their own lives.. You would force them to go back to that method..

Very few, the leader of the pro-abortion movement at the time Roe was decided admitted as much . As for forcing them to go back to that method GOOD I feel no sympathy for the criminal that dies while in the commission of a crime.

[Howlin]

The thing that is so distasteful is that they insist that THEIR agenda be consider to the exclusion of all others.

[EternalVigilance]

The numbers you cite from the NYT are a red herring.

In the context of the current debate, the question is not how many evangelicals voted, but how many pro-lifers.

And there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of the President's votes were cast by pro-lifers.

GOP leaders ignore them at their own peril.

[JeffAtlanta]

If we lose interest or lose heart the party will be greatly the weaker for it.

Actually, the party would be much stronger if it could get rid of you guys. Whatever votes the party would lose, it would gain twofold as many otherwise conservative people vote democratic because they are pro-choice.

The Republican party is dependent on you guys now because they've ran off all of the pro-choice conservatives. You guys showed your loyalty in 2000 by staying home after Bush's DUI arrest was made public.

If the conservative movement could some how become less dependent on you guys, we could win over millions of others that you guys currently alienate and scare.

You think you guys swung the election? See how many votes Bush would have gotten if he had proposed a national health care system or proposed rolling back the tax cuts. See how many votes Bush would have gotten if he had proposed the idea of a 'global test' for determining our military actions. Only nut jobs put abortion as the #1 issue. While Most people (even conservatives) don't even care all that much.

If the republican party changed its platform to pro-choice tomorrow, they'd do just as well in 2008 as without you. In fact, I predict the republicans will lose the house and senate in 2006 because you guys are making so much noise that it scares off the non-nutjob conservatives. After that, where will you guys be? You think you'll get any pro-life choices affirmed after that?

[Spiff]

Hispanic, security moms, married men and blacks turned out in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; don't you think their demands should be given just as much thought as you?

I've seen it stated that the Hispanic and Black voters switched to Bush because of the values issues like the pro-life issue. I'm a married man and I voted for Bush mostly on the pro-life justices and judges issue. That leaves security moms - how many of them do you think are pro-life? The fact is that the vast majority of Bush voters are pro-life and they expect him to advance the pro-life cause - some more than others.

[Amelia]

Read this thread please and see the threats against the pro-life community. Either we drop our "extremism" or we are barred from political life.

What I saw was a threat that if your "extremism" wasn't adopted by the entire party, you would leave the party - thus barring yourselves from political life.

[kjvail]

In a world of moral relativism Truth is extreme.