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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: Howlin

Facts are such pesky nuisances.


202 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:32 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: jmstein7
You are probably right--my heels are comfy cool.

This is added pressure on them so they don't cave at the last minute. Scared Straight for Senators from Freeper-Central!
203 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:33 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Lurking2Long

I see you're now on this thread, lying about me.


204 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:34 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin
Good tactic.

Let's belittle the contributions of the Christian voters.

You're a genius.

205 posted on 11/13/2004 9:01:46 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: McGavin999

See #200.


206 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:30 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: narses
You, otoh, imply that making EVIL legal is good policy.

I do no such thing..

Maybe you need to go back and re-read my posts..
At no time did I suggest that.
I merely said that forcing the issue by law would not solve the problem..

You readily admitted yourself, that prior to Roe, women were having abortions illegally.. often at the cost of their own lives..
You would force them to go back to that method..

Especially, you refuse to find any middle-ground.
A moral, informed choice for life is better than a choice that is forced upon you.. especially when there is no room or flexibility for common sense.

What next, Marie-Antoinette ?
When told your people have no bread, will you reply, "let them eat cake" ?

207 posted on 11/13/2004 9:02:58 AM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Spiff
"Let's belittle the contributions of the Christian voters. "

As opposed to letting them claim credit for a victory that belongs to all?

208 posted on 11/13/2004 9:03:31 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Spiff

You're the ones demanding that Bush do what you say or you'll leave the party.

If you want to pretend you turned out in big numbers, go right ahead; but you undercut your argument with untruths.

Hispanic, security moms, married men and blacks turned out in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; don't you think their demands should be given just as much thought as you?


209 posted on 11/13/2004 9:04:31 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: sitetest

and thus in a state of excommunication latae sententiae.



I think the Democratic party has also done something similar to him.


210 posted on 11/13/2004 9:04:57 AM PST by buddyholly
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To: Howlin; McGavin999
See #200.

Yes, please see the article from The New York Times that Howlin has posted. Please ignore that the NYT is an extremely biased, leftist, subversive piece of crap. They certainly don't have any agenda in this matter - like, maybe, causing some Republicans to publically question the contributions of the Christian voters in the last election.

211 posted on 11/13/2004 9:05:04 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Exactly.

In fact, Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; do you suppose they will demand something "or else?"


212 posted on 11/13/2004 9:05:17 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: buddyholly

We can only hope.


213 posted on 11/13/2004 9:06:13 AM PST by sitetest
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To: Howlin
"In fact, Hispanics voted in greater numbers than Evangelicals did; do you suppose they will demand something "or else?""

YO QUIERO TACO BELL!!!

OR ELSE!

214 posted on 11/13/2004 9:06:29 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: cpforlife.org

Big-Time BUMP!


215 posted on 11/13/2004 9:06:41 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Howlin
You're the ones demanding that Bush do what you say or you'll leave the party.

I never said any such thing.

If you want to pretend you turned out in big numbers, go right ahead; but you undercut your argument with untruths.

We did turn out in big numbers and no matter how many articles from the leftist subversive New York Times that you post won't change that fact.

216 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:09 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Howlin

Hi Howlin


217 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:10 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: Spiff

It's from Pew Research. And for your information, Michael Barone has the exact same numbers; now, what's your objection to HIM??????

And what's the difference in looking at other articles, as opposed to just ones published by groups who have an agenda, except, of course, that YOU agree with them.

I am pro-life; but I detest one issue voters who constantly DEMAND that their views be put in front of everybody else's "or else."


218 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:18 AM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Isn't there anyone in the Congressional leadership who is even willing to introduce a resolution proposing a Human Life Amendment?

Alan Keyes would've done it, if he'd gotten elected.

219 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:21 AM PST by Amelia
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To: Spiff

Why don't you then address the facts and figures in the article, rather than attacking the source?

What you just did amounts to a concession of the facts stated in the article.


220 posted on 11/13/2004 9:07:44 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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