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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


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To: streetpreacher

I think you can leave out the "could."


1,121 posted on 11/13/2004 11:59:58 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: hocndoc

There is no escape from this, unless it is by the pedantic point that "well, the Supreme Court isn't LAW, so passing some feel good measure that is swatted down the next day under Roe is sufficient"


1,122 posted on 11/14/2004 12:02:10 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Howlin

Right. And for the record, I'm not entirely sure how Specter is going to play out, i.e. will he backstab conservatives or not? But this kind of reminds me when the President gambled the First Amendment to CFR and the Courts and lost "Big Time" (as Dick Cheney might say). Why take that chance with Specter?


1,123 posted on 11/14/2004 12:04:57 AM PST by streetpreacher (There will be no Trolls in heaven.)
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To: narses
Well I see the tail is trying to wag the dog again. You appear to be one of the ring leaders in this dust up so I will tell you this right up front. If my daughters or daugters-in-law are ever told by their doctors that they should have an abortion due to risk to their life or health or have been raped and you or someone like you tries to interfere I will "abort" you or whomever else on the spot. You people are as dangerous as your loony left brethren, you are just dangerous for different reasons.
1,124 posted on 11/14/2004 12:11:01 AM PST by Texasforever (I need a new tagline)
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To: Texasforever

I am not dangerous, and neither is narses.


You are not discussing "elective" abortion, except in the case of the abortion for "health" and possibly for "rape."

If we could get the courts to understand that "health" and "life" are not synonymous, we could limit 96% of all abortions.

3% of abortions are due to your reasons. And those which are carried out after 15 weeks are statistically more dangerous than carrying the child to delivery. After 20 weeks, there is no reason to kill the child to terminate the pregnancy. There is never a reason for 'partial birth abortion."

Take a look at the pro-aborts' own statistics:
http://www.agi-usa.org/presentations/abort_slides.pdf
Most Important Reason Given for
Terminating an Unwanted Pregnancy
Inadequate finances 21%
Not ready for responsibility 21%
Woman’s life would be changed too much 16%
Problems with relationship; unmarried 12%
Too young; not mature enough 11%
Children are grown; woman has all she wants 8%
Fetus has possible health problem 3%
Woman has health problem 3%
Pregnancy caused by rape, incest 1%
Other 4%
Average number of reasons given 3.7
Source: Torres and Forrest, 1988
(1987 data)
and on minor's right to consent
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/03/4/gr030404.html


1,125 posted on 11/14/2004 12:30:27 AM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Texasforever

Sure Tex. Just off those grandkids. You're a real hero. Just like John Wayne or something...


1,126 posted on 11/14/2004 12:31:45 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: hocndoc

Don't confuse them with facts. It makes them foam at the mouth...


1,127 posted on 11/14/2004 12:34:01 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Sure Tex. Just off those grandkids. You're a real hero. Just like John Wayne or something...

As I said, you and yours had better NEVER try to get between me and mine.

1,128 posted on 11/14/2004 12:38:41 AM PST by Texasforever (I need a new tagline)
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To: Texasforever
As I said, you and yours had better NEVER try to get between me and mine.

Pretty short step from offing the kid to offing me, I suppose.

1,129 posted on 11/14/2004 12:40:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Texasforever

Ah, you're reduced to bodily threats. Interesting.


1,131 posted on 11/14/2004 12:43:23 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance; Texasforever

Oh PLEASE. You begged for that.


1,132 posted on 11/14/2004 12:44:43 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Not now. I'm working the room.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Ah, you're reduced to bodily threats. Interesting

Your body is in no danger from me as long as you keep it out of my and my family's business.

1,133 posted on 11/14/2004 12:45:29 AM PST by Texasforever (I need a new tagline)
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To: EternalVigilance

Threat? Hardly, although you're trying to make it into one.


1,134 posted on 11/14/2004 12:45:54 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I begged for him to tell me how much he would enjoy killing me?

You people have lost your minds.


1,135 posted on 11/14/2004 12:46:38 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I let these idiots alone all the time they were ruining the GOP in Illinois but I will be damned if they are going to do it to the rest of us.
1,136 posted on 11/14/2004 12:47:43 AM PST by Texasforever (I need a new tagline)
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To: EternalVigilance

You took issue with his wanting to protect the women in his family...how the hell do you EXPECT him to react to that?


1,137 posted on 11/14/2004 12:49:11 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Not now. I'm working the room.)
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To: Texasforever

My goal is to keep people from killing little kids, through law.

Conscience alone should prevent it, but some folks have seared their own to the point of uselessness.

Hence the need for government.


1,138 posted on 11/14/2004 12:50:32 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
"I begged for him to tell me how much he would enjoy killing me?"

You're even more sick and twisted then I gave you credit for.

1,139 posted on 11/14/2004 12:51:08 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: EternalVigilance
Pretty short step from offing the kid to offing me, I suppose.

You didn't type that?

1,140 posted on 11/14/2004 12:51:20 AM PST by Texasforever (I need a new tagline)
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