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For Peterson jury, circumstantial evidence made case for murder
modbee ^ | 11-12-04

Posted on 11/12/2004 4:47:48 PM PST by LouAvul

REDWOOD CITY, Calif. (AP) - It was circumstantial evidence that led jurors to decide that Scott Peterson planned the killing of his wife. They agreed it was premeditated, first-degree murder even though prosecutors didn't prove where, how or exactly when Laci was killed.

The jury did so, legal analysts said, because of the cumulative weight of all the circumstantial factors that pointed to Peterson - not least his alibi about going fishing in San Francisco Bay the day she disappeared from her home in Modesto, more than 85 miles southeast.

When her body and that of her fetus turned up four months later not far from the marina where Peterson launched his brand new boat, that alibi became some of the strongest evidence against him.

"Just the fact that her body was found in a place where he put himself - that alone is overwhelming evidence," said Pete Kossoris, a retired attorney who prosecuted murder cases for 27 years.

Kossoris said the defense didn't present a "reasonable alternative" to the prosecution's theory of the case.

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1 posted on 11/12/2004 4:47:48 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: LouAvul

The "circumstances" equate to "murderer."


2 posted on 11/12/2004 4:55:41 PM PST by bannie (Jamma Nana!)
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To: LouAvul

"cumulative weight of all the circumstantial factors"

I guess I missed this part of the 'beyond a reasonable doubt' instruction.

Lots of people are guilty of lots of crimes under this standard of evidence.

We could burn witches based on this standard.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 5:01:16 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM, they can hate us all they want.)
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To: PeterFinn

There was not a reasonable doubt left.


4 posted on 11/12/2004 5:05:43 PM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: LouAvul

It looks as if he did it, but put someone away for life because of what it "looks" like? How many people get put behind bars who are innocent? Pretty many when you look at all the stories of people sitting in jail for years and then being set free on DNA evidence... I'm not sold on his guilt even though it appears he did it... prove that he did it... they did not.


5 posted on 11/12/2004 5:10:07 PM PST by dubie
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To: LouAvul
There was lots of publicity about Peterson's alibi -- if someone else had killed her, it would make sense to dump her in the bay later to frame him.

Not sure if this was argued or even possible, but it's a plausible explanation for her being in the bay that doesn't involve Peterson.

6 posted on 11/12/2004 5:11:45 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Monti Cello

That bugged me too. If I wanted to dump her, I would go right to the bay, where they said Peterson was. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that he was guilty as Hell.


7 posted on 11/12/2004 5:22:04 PM PST by gridlock (FOUR MORE YEARS!!!! FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!)
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To: LouAvul

Peterson is a monster and thank God the jury found him guilty.


8 posted on 11/12/2004 5:22:20 PM PST by hershey
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To: dubie

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This is a monumental victory for justice. In California, "beyond a reasonable doubt" usually means that the defendant has confessed to the crime. Anything less, he goes free.

99.9% of ALL MURDERS are committed without a witness and the perpetrator NEVER CONFESSES.

Without "circumstatial evidence", we could all be DEAD MEAT for anyone who got us alone somewhere.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 5:22:39 PM PST by JATO (The MSM is ORGANIZED CRIME. Conspiracy, fraud, blackmail, bribery. They do it ALL.)
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To: JATO

iinocent until proven guilty. I don't see how you prove someone guilty with no evidence of a crime.


10 posted on 11/12/2004 5:24:20 PM PST by dubie
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No Crime? Laci's bound body didn't just wander to the SF bay...she was murdered. Rarely is there a murder and video tape of the crime to show in court. Circumstantial evidence is more prevalent than you probably realize.


11 posted on 11/12/2004 5:34:43 PM PST by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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To: LouAvul
Well, at least part I of this soap opera is over. Greta has the green light for the next 75 years to cover the appeals process... Now where is my remote? ...

Breaking News!!!

This just in!!!

Young boy trips over sqirrel. Squirrel is dead.

SWAT team called in to capture the perp. CINCPAC and other gov't resources are involved in tracking the whereabouts of the 11 year old boy.

Stay tuned for further news at 11....

12 posted on 11/12/2004 5:41:16 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: kmiller1k
I did not say there was no crime. I am saying you can't prove Scott did it without physical evidence he committed a crime. No matter how guilty you want him to be, the case against him was weak. He is guilty of being the husband of a women who was murdered. As much as it "looks" like he did it and most would conclude he did, there is no proof he did.
13 posted on 11/12/2004 5:42:12 PM PST by dubie
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To: dubie
Tying a body down with concrete and throwing into the bay is a crime. Nor is there any plausible explanation for it being a "natural" event.

There was a criminal act involved.

Duh...
14 posted on 11/12/2004 5:43:17 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: hershey

I agree....... Thank God they found him guilty.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 5:44:27 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: dubie

That isn't how it works.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 5:45:00 PM PST by DB (©)
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To: Monti Cello
"There was lots of publicity about Peterson's alibi -- if someone else had killed her, it would make sense to dump her in the bay later to frame him."

I saw a post on yahoo(yuck,I went there to gawk at the idiots-sorry)that made some sense.It pinned this murder on Amber.She was ticked about his lying.She figured he was hers for the long haul and a dad to her daughter.She gets revenge and does this on her own knowing Peterson was at the Bay that day.The only tough part is how did she dump the body by herself?....

17 posted on 11/12/2004 5:50:51 PM PST by oust the louse
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To: DB

I agree a crime was committed. I just think if your going to put some one in jail for life or execute them, you should have rock solid evidence and be darn sure you have the right person. No matter how much it appears he did it, it does not make it so.


18 posted on 11/12/2004 5:58:29 PM PST by dubie
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To: dubie
Circumstantial evidence is misunderstood. An example: You wake up one morning to find a foot of snow on the ground, when there was no snow the day before. There is circumstantial evidence that it snowed that night. You didn't see the snow fall, but the snow is there, and you know there was no other way the snow got there. I think in this case you would agree that the circumstantial evidence is as convincing as the direct evidence.

If you think about the OJ trial, the evidence was mostly circumstantial. Nobody saw him kill the victims.

Finally, consider a husband whose wife finds that his shirt smells like perfume, his pants have lipstick smeared all over the front, there are blonde hairs in his undershirt, and finally little bite marks on his stomach. No direct evidence he was fooling around (unless she broke into the hotel room or found the videotape), but the wife most likely will find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm only speaking generally, as I'm not familiar with all the details of this case.

19 posted on 11/12/2004 6:01:22 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (31 Red States - All Your Senate Are Belong To Us!!)
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To: You Dirty Rats

good examples, but I feel the evidence in this case was not the best. But I was not on the jury. It appear that the 2 jurors that disagreed were booted so they could get the conviction. Hardly a slam dunk case... I'm glad I am not Scott Peterson. I can enjoy the debate from my freeper chair.


20 posted on 11/12/2004 6:34:01 PM PST by dubie
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