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1 posted on 11/12/2004 2:27:51 PM PST by swilhelm73
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How much is a "vow from Spector" worth?


2 posted on 11/12/2004 2:28:21 PM PST by housewife101
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To: swilhelm73

No, no, no, no! These vows, promises or whatever aren't good enough. Bork the Specter!


4 posted on 11/12/2004 2:30:18 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: swilhelm73

Does Scottish law allow this sort of vow???


5 posted on 11/12/2004 2:31:05 PM PST by lnbchip
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To: WillRain; guitarist; hansel; Former Military Chick; El Oviedo; Agitate; Prolifeconservative; ...

Stop Specter Ping


6 posted on 11/12/2004 2:31:31 PM PST by Syco
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Specter has broken his word repeatedly. I assume he told Rove that if Bush helped him in Pennsylvania, he would help Bush. Ha.

Specter is going to be meeting in the back room with the Democrats on the committee. Does anyone think Specter can be prevented from making whatever deals he likes? Does anyone think he will keep a promise if the situation changes and Bush is weakened by media attacks? Will he keep the promise after Bush leaves office?

We have a window of four years to straighten out our judiciary. We can't afford to let the whole thing ride on a corrupt liar.


7 posted on 11/12/2004 2:32:04 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The Republicans are really willing to gamble their electoral majority in order to preserve the rules of seniority in the Senate.

Wow.

Two simple predictions:

(1) Given Specter's character, he is likely to block pro-life nominees, if not directly, by subterfuge, and if he does,

(2) The Democrats will pick up a lot of seats in 2006, because the pro-life voters will stay home. And the Democratic nominee will win the Presidency in 2008 too.

The Republicans are gambling everything on the feckless Arlen Specter.
They are doing it because they really don't connect the dots, or they really don't believe that pro-life voters will abandon them if they don't use their full power to advance the pro-life agenda.

It's a calculated gamble.
So, Republicans, your fate will rest in the integrity of Arlen Specter. Because your leaders have chosen to make it this way when they didn't have to. Hold your breath and cross your fingers that everything will turn out ok, because there's not much else to do.

Depressing, really.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 2:33:33 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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Specter WAS a Democrat.

Vlad Harkonen: "NEVER trust a traitor, even if he is yours."

10 posted on 11/12/2004 2:34:28 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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Pa voted Kerry Specter is form Pa. he needs Pa. to keep his job , He will be more worried about his job than any promise he makes to Bush. Why take a chance dump him.


11 posted on 11/12/2004 2:34:54 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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with this, specter is in... sad.


13 posted on 11/12/2004 2:36:21 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: swilhelm73

Well, I don't think that's right. On the one hand, if he means that MacSpectre would be OBLIGED to VOTE FOR **any** pro-life candidate... well, how could he do that? Suppose a Klansman or Nazi who happened to be pro-life was nominated? I know it wouldn't happen with W, but I just mean it doesn't seem a fair commitment to demand.

If it means that MacSpectre would vow not to vote against a nominee JUST for being pro-life... how is that useful? I mean, of course he'd say it was for something else. How would we know whether he meant it? It's like the "health of the mother" exception to abortion; could mean anything.

Besides, is this what we really want -- a commitment on how he'd finally vote? Or do we want a chair who'd have fair and prompt hearings, and then send the nominee to the full Senate? I mean, yeah, I'd rather at least every GOP senator support anyone W would be likely to nominate... but is that a fair *demand*?

Dan


14 posted on 11/12/2004 2:36:46 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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If he is made chairman we will live to regret it. Bringing candidates for an up-down vote is one thing, fighting for President Bush's appointments is another.

In an interview with Sean Hannity he called Justice Thomas "satisfactory" when asked whether he would support him for Chief Justice. I don't consider that a ringing endorsement of Justice Thomas.

He (Specter) is going to be touble.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 2:38:29 PM PST by Moconservative
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Specter is about as carefree with the truth as is John F Kerry
its no wonder they are so attracted to each other..


19 posted on 11/12/2004 2:41:56 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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"I not only voted against Bork, I led the charge against him."

- Arlen Specter

20 posted on 11/12/2004 2:41:58 PM PST by glock rocks ("I not only voted against Bork, I led the charge against him." -- Arlen Specter)
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These people are taking us for granted just like the Dimms take to Blacks for granted !!

It is time to look to a third party who will have candidiates who are Pro COnstitution and Pro Christian and Pro Life. I am sick of these A$$ES and mean to tell them so. They won't believe us until 2 years from now when we can make believers out of all of them -- both the ELETE of the Left and The ELETE of the Right. They both have an extreme hearing defeciency !!

No matter what we do these jerks will not understand!

E-mail the Hell out of them to Bork Specter, his promises aren't worth SPIT!


21 posted on 11/12/2004 2:42:09 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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Why can't the republicans get a backbone?


22 posted on 11/12/2004 2:42:38 PM PST by Taggart_D
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It will be a magic vow.


24 posted on 11/12/2004 2:44:09 PM PST by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: swilhelm73

How much is the vow of a liar worth?


26 posted on 11/12/2004 2:44:30 PM PST by sport
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A vow to God?

Oh sure.
28 posted on 11/12/2004 2:46:29 PM PST by Delphinium
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Tell the members that IF they support his nomination and vote for him that we will hold their seat personally responsible and tak out specters action on their reputations in their own voting blocks with adds condeming their judgement. If they agree to that... fine let them vote him in.


31 posted on 11/12/2004 2:48:32 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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"Specter has broken his word repeatedly. I assume he told Rove that if Bush helped him in Pennsylvania, he would help Bush. Ha.

Specter is going to be meeting in the back room with the Democrats on the committee. Does anyone think Specter can be prevented from making whatever deals he likes? Does anyone think he will keep a promise if the situation changes and Bush is weakened by media attacks? Will he keep the promise after Bush leaves office?

We have a window of four years to straighten out our judiciary. We can't afford to let the whole thing ride on a corrupt liar."

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Everything I have read about him justifies NRO's article: "The Worst Republican Senator." He has made an art form of acting like a Republican only when he is up for re-election. As others have stated this is the only reason he stood up for Justice Thomas during his confirmation battle. Which brings us to the "Zell" factor; Spector is old and tired and every indication is that he will be leaving after this term. Therefore, he will take off his mask big time and nose-thumb the administration with a "nyah, nyah, nyah" as soon as he gets what he wants. There won't be a thing Dubya or anyone else will be able to do about it.

For God's sake, let's show some backbone for once. Bush has spent four years reaching out to the other side and pulling his hand back bloody. Make no mistake, Spector IS "the other side."


32 posted on 11/12/2004 2:49:43 PM PST by sinanju
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