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Panel Member Wants Vow From Specter
W Post ^ | November 11, 2004 | Helen Dewar

Posted on 11/12/2004 2:27:51 PM PST by swilhelm73

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To: swilhelm73

does Scottish law address litmus tests?


81 posted on 11/12/2004 4:10:23 PM PST by isom35
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To: swilhelm73

You may consider talk of a Third Party - Lunacy. Considering the fact that Bush's Immigration Policy, despite the fact that Prop 200 was passed in Arizona, makes it quite sane.

Prop 200 was passed even with the Elete of the Republican Party such as Senator John McCain and the Republican Governor were among it's supporters.

Make no mistake, George W. Bush is for cheap labor and it really makes you wonder -- Why would a President Propose an Immigration Policy that throws open our borders in time of War??


82 posted on 11/12/2004 4:11:18 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: swilhelm73

Any senator that trusts Specter needs to have their head examined. Public can not help but notice that Bush has said nothing in this matter. Bush had lots to say when he cut the feet out from under Toomey.


83 posted on 11/12/2004 4:13:31 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Vicomte13

As we have seen you can't creat a third party overnight!! So these initial nominations and Immigration policy's and who is placed on the Supreme court, the laws that are pased. How the Activist judges are brought under control, or thrown out, etc. will be indicators as to how we as American's - American's of the Old World Order will have to act to preserve our country.

Hildebeast was just saying last night in her speech that the Dimms must convince the moderate conservatives that the Homosexuality is acceptable and that the Bible should be used to prove it!!! Go FIgure !!! She will be attending Church Services soon.


84 posted on 11/12/2004 4:17:54 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Paperdoll

And is everyone forgetting that George Soros gave MONEY to have Arlen Specter win in PA?

Soros is ANTI-CONSERVATIVE and ANTI-REPUBLICAN.

So why does he support Arlen Specter?

Please, folks...this is too obvious.

We cannot let Arlen Specter be Chariman--keep telling those Senators!


85 posted on 11/12/2004 4:18:12 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Taggart_D
Maybe someone should inform Dr. Frist that the Democrats have already..."seized from the president the power to appoint judges."

What I want to know is what do the Republicans plan to do about this "tyranny of the minority" other than talk about it? This same crap has been going on since before the '02 election and they are still talking and talking and talking.... When are they going to DO something? Or are they? So far, they appear to want to keep the problem since it has worked well to keep them in the majority. At some point ('06?) the benefit will end.

86 posted on 11/12/2004 4:29:33 PM PST by penowa
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To: 26lemoncharlie

You:"As we have seen you can't creat a third party overnight!! So these initial nominations and Immigration policy's and who is placed on the Supreme court, the laws that are pased. How the Activist judges are brought under control, or thrown out, etc. will be indicators as to how we as American's - American's of the Old World Order will have to act to preserve our country.
Hildebeast was just saying last night in her speech that the Dimms must convince the moderate conservatives that the Homosexuality is acceptable and that the Bible should be used to prove it!!! Go FIgure !!! She will be attending Church Services soon."

Yep, all of that's true.
But you are failing to understand something.
The religious people who vote on abortion and gay marriage are not nearly as interested in the fortunes of the Republican or Democratic party, or immigration, or anything else.
We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on earth that compares with this one is moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and slid by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it.
IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years.
We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican this time, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. The issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Specter on the committee and he blocks pro-life nominees. Or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be by you political CHOICE to do so. You CAN put them on, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people. A lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you.
We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion.
We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work.
We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000.
Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies.
Period.
This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you.
You have nothing to bargain with with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as a package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything else that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken".
It is called a "Mexican Standoff".
And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you for. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your issues - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us.
When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being.
Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post.
But it needed to be said.
The Republicans do not seem to get it.
They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party.
That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want.
Do that, and you wont hear from us again, because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


87 posted on 11/12/2004 4:41:26 PM PST by Vicomte13 (Auta i Lome!)
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To: swilhelm73; All; Txsleuth; Delphinium
Interesting thread. TxSleuth, whom I have seen around at least said she contacted the Senator. Others need to do it. (I see Delph just posts "<"sarc" here too.) If so inclined to take action, here is the contact. Perhaps there is a need to get others involves, family, friends....?

Sen. John Cornyn, TX PH: 202-224-2934 FX: 202-228-2856
cornyn.senate.gov/contact/index.html

Let Cornyn know SPECTER

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88 posted on 11/12/2004 4:50:05 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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To: Vicomte13

"You have nothing to bargain with with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us."

This is the truth of it all! Every PRO-LIFER is going to refuse to support the Republicans anymore if they betray us.

(No reason to apologize for the long post--every word is good and sums up the situation exactly as it is.)


89 posted on 11/12/2004 5:03:24 PM PST by Cedar
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To: swilhelm73
You hit the nail right on the head!

The answer, my FRiend, is not staying home if they fail us, but rather in Primary elections.

90 posted on 11/12/2004 6:09:14 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Specter needs to see a 3-D sonogram image.)
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To: Henchman

"Perhaps there is a need to get others involved, family, friends....?"

Just got home after delivering flyers to friends to give out at their churches. Here's my flyer which you are welcome to use as you see fit, and to change any part of it.


STOP ARLEN SPECTER !

Over the past 20 years, left-wing Republican Sen. Arlen Specter has led the liberals to block conservative judges from being placed on the Supreme Court, including Justice Robert Bork. Specter is now in line to become chairman of the Judiciary Committee. He is expected to carry out the agenda of the far left and block all of President Bush’s Supreme Court nominees.

WHY DOES THE SUPREME COURT MATTER?

Thanks to Specter and other liberals such as Ted Kennedy, the Supreme Court has been empowered to make war on traditional America.

States can't prohibit partial-birth abortion, displaying the Ten Commandments has been criminalized, voluntary prayer is banned at high-school football games, flag-burning is a constitutional right, the government is allowed to engage in race discrimination in college admissions, the nation has been forced into a public debate about gay marriage, we have to worry about whether the Supreme Court will remove "under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance, and a mafia-dominated pornography industry has ruined our culture.


HOW YOU CAN HELP

1. Contact your U.S. Senators by phone. The Capitol Switchboard is 202-224-3121. Send emails also, though this is less effective. Emails can be sent to them via the National Right to Life Legislative Action Center at http://www.capwiz.com/nrlc/home/
2. Call the office of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tn.) at 202-224-3344. Sen. Frist has more influence than any other senator.
3. Forward this message to everyone in your e-mail lists, make copies and distribute them at any meetings you may attend, as well as to friends, neighbors and relatives.


These groups are working to stop Specter:
Focus on the Family
Concerned Women for America
The Family Research Council
Christian Defense Coalition
Faith and Action
Operation Rescue
National Taxpayers Union
Syndicated radio talk host Laura Ingraham
Grassroots PA


91 posted on 11/12/2004 6:19:06 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: Txsleuth

When I called Senator Cornyn's office today, I told the staff member that I had read he may vote for Specter, and asked if he would tell the Senator that I said not to. He said he'd pass it along.

He asked me for my zip code, and I gave it. Then I said, "Even though I'm from New York, this is an issue of great importance to the whole country."

I must admit that I sounded like a little wimp on the phone. It was either that or hammer it home - then I don't know what would have flown out of my mouth! LOL! No doubt about it, I need more practice at this phone FReeping.

At any rate, I couldn't help but have the feeling that my call would have counted more, in their opinion, if I was in Texas. It seems to me that Senators like Cornyn have to realize that they are accountable to all conservatives concerning national issues.


92 posted on 11/12/2004 6:23:41 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Specter needs to see a 3-D sonogram image.)
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To: Liberty Wins

WOW! What energy and dedication. THANK YOU. You put me to shame.


93 posted on 11/12/2004 6:27:09 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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To: swilhelm73
RELAX...THIS IS ALL MOOT. ONCE FRIST CHANGES THE RULES TO PERMIT ALL JUDICIAL NOMINEES A FLOOR VOTE, SPECTER WILL NO LONGER MATTER.
94 posted on 11/12/2004 6:37:02 PM PST by montag813
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To: Henchman

Freepers, listen to this! Just read today's email from the Family Research Council, and it made my blood run cold. They said:

"The CHAIRMAN hires almost all staff on the committee, and staff members reflect the views of the boss."

Can you imagine what kind of staff members the committee would end up with? I'm sure every single pro-abortion, anti-American, anti-Christian group would be represented on that staff, and then we would reap the whirlwind.

The staff does all the work, even WRITES THE LAWS.


95 posted on 11/12/2004 6:37:15 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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96 posted on 11/12/2004 6:37:26 PM PST by devolve ( http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html -KERRY http://pr.lookingat.us/TexasRancher.html -BUSH)
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To: Liberty Wins
"Can you imagine what kind of staff members the committee would end up with? I'm sure every single pro-abortion, anti-American, anti-Christian group would be represented on that staff, and then we would reap the whirlwind." Sounds like Dems!

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97 posted on 11/12/2004 6:51:08 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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To: Liberty Wins
OK, you put a fire under me. I contacted the 4 closest friends who are also big time "churchies" (I ain't) here in Jesusland. If they get involved, half the South will rise! (A slight exaggeration, but we could use their help)

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98 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:46 PM PST by Henchman (BORK SPECTER. Email your friends and relatives. PLEASE do it now!)
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To: Moconservative

I also heard Sean Hannity's interview with Specter & I was truly incensed.

We Bush voters turned out by the millions & we want his program carried out.....period.

I wish Specter had lost instead of Daschle.


99 posted on 11/12/2004 6:59:15 PM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: joanie-f

Joanie, I know you have called and written letters to all of the republican judiciary committee members. Will you please post a copy of what you wrote to give me, and maybe others, an idea of what to include in a letter like that. I am not real knowledgeable about his history but I do know I don't want him as chairman of this committee.

TIA.


100 posted on 11/12/2004 7:00:33 PM PST by CharliefromKS
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