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To: tame
Not at all. if you dare argue that "born" means given birth on U.S. soil, then Germans, French, etc. may be killed.

Actually, in event of war or other national emergency, foreign nationals may be apprehended and expelled or detained, and even killed (if they resist said apprehension). Indeed, one complaint of note is that we've allowed foreign nationals from known terrorism-sponosring countries to run around loose on our soil since 9/11.

However, please also note that the 14th Amendment cannot be construed to criminalize abortion. At best, if the theory you argue does hold merit, it forbids the government from engaging in compulsory abortion.

The 14th Amendment does not outlaw murder. That is still up to the states.

319 posted on 11/12/2004 2:34:51 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah
Actually, in event of war or other national emergency, foreign nationals may be apprehended and expelled or detained, and even killed (if they resist said apprehension). Indeed, one complaint of note is that we've allowed foreign nationals from known terrorism-sponosring countries to run around loose on our soil since 9/11.

The point stands that the meaning of the word "born" is not consistent with your interpretation.

However, please also note that the 14th Amendment cannot be construed to criminalize abortion.

It most certainly DOES. By your line of reasoning, the 14th amendment cannot be contrued to criminalize murder or any number of civil rights violations. Do you actually believe this. If not, what would be the difference?

The 14th Amendment does not outlaw murder. That is still up to the states.

So then any person CAN be deprived of life, liberty or due property without due process of law???

False disjunct fallacy again. the 14th amendment outlaws murder, while the states set penalties.

324 posted on 11/12/2004 2:40:08 PM PST by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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