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The prosecution's jury picker was just on The Big story with Justin and for the first time, he put Justin in his place. He tried to be calm and let him have a decent exit, as Rita was pointing out JF being wrong on the verdict; Justin then went down the road of how "troubling" it is that this jury went with emotions, not logic, as logically, only a guilty verdict was the natural outcome.And their "behavior, this talk of books".

Justin also continued the "Disturbing" rumors about jury misconduct with #5 .....so, when Rita questioned him again as to how JF felt now, as 24 hours before the verdict he was predicting a not guilty and seemed to feel so differently about #6--JF started to get red in the face, said emotion again, etc, that he always said there was going to be a verdict. Then he went on to talk about how disturbing it is that they, the jurors were talking and thinking about book deals.

Here is where I think he is going and where MG wants to use him to do damage: JF stated absolutely they all discussed writing books etc while he was still on the case.

But of course, it was certainly fine for JF to discuss back then, but just "sinful" to hear of the final group having had thoughts of this.

At this point, Howard, the prosecution's guy stated "you just heard Justin take a nose dive." Just in looked red as a tomato, but couldn't think of a response. Rita closed out the segment. Howard finally said

664 posted on 11/13/2004 6:33:21 PM PST by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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Some talk of appeals. The jury in the boat does not warrant any points on appeal, imo. True, it is presumed that SP dumped Laci's body out of the boat while the boat was in water and the boat's stability in that situation can not be ascertained while the boat was secured to the trailer. It is also true that the body was presumed to have been placed into the boat, and the body shifted around inside of the boat, while the boat was secured to the trailer. The jury had reason to examine the evidence of the boat secured to the trailer if only to ascertain the stability of the footing while in the boat and to see if the boat could be tipped from the trailer in that situation.

From the infamous Mouser appeal case. Case law denying Mouser's claim that the jury acted improperly in visiting the location of where his step-daughter's body was found.-

In People v. Bogle (1995) 41 Cal.App.4th 770 (Bogle), a set of keys and a safe were introduced into evidence. The jury discovered that one of the keys on the key ring opened the safe. The appellate court concluded that the jury had not engaged in improper experimentation and that the jury’s discovery of the relationship between the key and the safe did not violate defendant’s constitutional rights. It explained that in light of the testimony presented at trial, “the jury was entitled to determine, from the evidence it was given, the character and extent of the defendant’s relationship to the safe. Trying the keys on the safe was an exercise in that pursuit, not a foray into a new field.” (Id. at p. 780.) Bogle relied in part on a Louisiana rape case, State v. Gaston (La. 1982) 412 So.2d 574. There, the victim identified defendant by a skin discoloration on his shoulder that she testified was visible because he was wearing a tank top when he accosted her. During deliberations, the jury asked and was permitted to see the defendant dressed in the tank top, which had been admitted into evidence. The reviewing court concluded that the jurors had not viewed new evidence; they “merely reexamined the evidence in a slightly different context as an aid in reaching a verdict.” (Bogle, supra, 41 Cal.App.4th at p. 781, citing State v. Gaston, supra, 412 So.2d at pp. 576-577.)

667 posted on 11/13/2004 8:24:51 PM PST by RGSpincich
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Thanks for the report. When I saw that JF was going to be on the show, I switched to another channel. He was also again on Greta and on Abrams -- both of whom apparently like him. Whenever he speaks, I switch channesl. He reminds me of Mauarice Clarette.

Who is this creep Herskowitz(?), who looks and sounds like an undertaker? For whatever reason he keeps popping up everywhere. And why the sleepy Hammer? He is introduced as a former prosecutor, apparently now unemployed.

674 posted on 11/14/2004 11:55:30 AM PST by Dante3
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