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Turkey Warns US It Plans To Invade Northern Iraq Shortly After Elections
Geostrategy-Direct.com (Subscription Site) ^ | 11 Nov 04 | Geostrategy-Direct.com

Posted on 11/11/2004 3:43:19 PM PST by datura

FOCUS ON TURKEY

Turkey warns U.S. it plans to invade northern Iraq shortly after elections


ANKARA — Turkey's military has begun preparing for what officials warned could result in a major invasion of neighboring Iraq.

Officials said the Turkish General Staff has drafted plans for an invasion by at least 20,000 troops into northern Iraq in early 2005. They said the General Staff has urged approval from the government of Prime Minister Recep Erdogan and discussed the proposed invasion with the United States.

"The current phase is to show the United States that we're serious," a Turkish government source said. "After the Iraqi elections in January, the Turkish military will be ready to move."

The military has called for a massive operation in northern Iraq to prevent Kurdish militias from controlling the area. The General Staff has been particularly alarmed by the reported Kurdish effort to drive out ethnic Turks from Kirkuk, the oil capital of northern Iraq and long claimed by Ankara.

Under the Turkish plan, the military would deploy at least 20,000 Turkish troops in an enclave south of the Iraqi-Turkish border. The force would focus on eliminating the Kurdish Workers Party and ensure the return of Turkmens to Kirkuk.

About 3,000 PKK fighters are said to be based in northern Iraq and have been sending insurgents and weaponry for attacks inside neighboring Turkey.

The United States has refused numerous Turkish appeals to eliminate the PKK strongholds.

On Oct. 14 Erdogan and his cabinet reviewed the General Staff's plan. That meeting, attended by Chief of Staff Gen. Hilmi Ozkok and Defense Minister Vecdi Gonul, discussed the rapid deployment of up to 40,000 troops in northern Iraq.

A scaled-down version of the military plan was discussed in the national security council on Oct. 27. The officials said that over the last week some units have already been deployed along the Iraqi-Turkish border.

Officials said the General Staff has sought to prepare two army divisions to cross the Iraqi border within 18 hours of any approval of the operation.

The first goal of the ground operation, supported by fighter-jets and attack helicopters, would be to destroy PKK strongholds in the Kandil mountains in northern Iraq.

The General Staff has warned the cabinet that Ankara could no longer ignore the Kurdish threat. Officials said the military has determined that Kurds from Iran and Syria have bolstered support for the PKK.

Iranian and Syrian Kurds, they said, have participated in PKK attacks against police and military targets in southeastern Turkey over the last week.

Officials said the General Staff has sought to obtain U.S. approval for the operation in northern Iraq. But Washington has not provided implicit approval.

The Erdogan government has sought to delay any Turkish military operation until after the European Union summit on Dec. 17. The government intends to spare the EU any pretext to delay a date for accession.

Officials said the Peshmerga are digging tunnels and establishing outposts outside Dahouk, near the Turkish border.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackhelicopters; geopolitics; hoax; iraq; kurds; southwestasia; tinfoil; turkey
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To: datura

this is all brinkmanship. Turkey will do nada zip. Saber rattling will not change the events on the ground. Turkey will not risk their relationship with the US over a non-existent threat. Mosul has never been Turkish nor Arab PERIOD


321 posted on 11/11/2004 8:48:03 PM PST by bubman
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
The enemy of our enemy is my friend, fellow freeper. One thing is random skirmishes, other is a full scale invasion.
322 posted on 11/11/2004 8:48:46 PM PST by misusu21
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To: bubman

i agree, is just saber rattling.


323 posted on 11/11/2004 8:49:22 PM PST by misusu21
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To: ApesForEvolution
We, as a nation, sealed our fate to a large degree when we accepted Communist red china into the world of civilized nation states

Absolutely agree.

324 posted on 11/11/2004 8:50:21 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

i dont. China is our partener in prosperty not our enemy.


325 posted on 11/11/2004 8:51:32 PM PST by misusu21
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To: ApesForEvolution
I've never settled what they did to our flyboys during Bush's first months in office...

That was a swift kick in the teeth.

326 posted on 11/11/2004 8:51:38 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ApesForEvolution

Agreed. In the short term our imput is vital.


327 posted on 11/11/2004 8:51:56 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: elizabetty
"What should the US do, shoot them when they come across the border?" Yes, just like we do when they come across our southern border!
328 posted on 11/11/2004 8:55:16 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: TexKat

We warned Fallugah(spl?) for weeks that we were going to attack. I'm not military but damn, why did we advertise our next move? Of course they left Fallugah. And headed straight for Mosul.


329 posted on 11/11/2004 8:56:58 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

The peril runs so deep that we, America, will either stare down a major, serious and mortal threat - or - cower to the Communists.


330 posted on 11/11/2004 8:57:40 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I don't support the PKK. they are indeed terrorist.


331 posted on 11/11/2004 8:58:01 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: misusu21

If I had to say what country would and could do us the most harm, without a blink of the eye I would say China.


332 posted on 11/11/2004 8:59:29 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: TexKat
It's the next phase...then where do we push we don't kill off to? Back to Iran, Syria and Turkey??? Chechnya, Waziristan, Pakistan the the Gulf peninsula?

"U.S. military officials have suggested that the lighter-than-expected military resistance against their Fallujah assault may mean that many of the insurgents had filtered out of the city to other population centers."

I don't know, but could it be that we telegraphed that one? Like "umm, don't suspect the week after Bush is elected...". Sheesh...
333 posted on 11/11/2004 9:00:58 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: misusu21
China is our partener in prosperty not our enemy.

Thanks, I needed a good belly laugh.

334 posted on 11/11/2004 9:01:26 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

honestly, they hates us but trade is the messenger of liberty.


335 posted on 11/11/2004 9:03:43 PM PST by misusu21
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To: ApesForEvolution
Me and mine will never cower to the Communists.

Just look at what China, Germany, and France have been doing lately.

China wants to buy fighters from Europe. The only problem is their human rights abuses have that on hold. China wants Europe to drop that little problem and in return, Europe will make billions from them.

Guess what? That is exactly what France and Germany are trying to pull off.

336 posted on 11/11/2004 9:04:59 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
I'm not military but damn, why did we advertise our next move? Of course they left Fallugah.

I can't understand why those sandal clad, back alley gang bangers didn't want to go up against artillery, choppers and a full blown army. (sarcasm.) Should of hit them with unannounced B-52 strikes..Get their attention, gain some long needed respect. Oh well.

337 posted on 11/11/2004 9:05:22 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: TexKat

Security and intelligence officials of the pro-U.S. Kurdish autonomous region of northern Iraq say they have concluded that Mosul, an ethnically diverse city of 2.5 million near the Syrian and Turkish borders, may be the next battlefield in the war between insurgents fighting the U.S.-led occupation force and Iraqi interim government.

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Sounds to me like the 'autonomous locals' need to grab a hold of reality quickly before they become a victim of it...


338 posted on 11/11/2004 9:07:17 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Yeah, what you said...I pray the PC part of this War is over and the "Sit. Watch. Learn..." part is beginning...


339 posted on 11/11/2004 9:08:52 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: pbrown

I know...I know...


340 posted on 11/11/2004 9:09:31 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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