Europe Must Adapt to U.S. View on Terror, NATO Chief Says

NY Times ^ | November 11, 2004 | WARREN HOGE

[veraamhang]

As I can see here are only Americans taking. I am from good old Europe and found your website in google and I am very interested in this news and your comments.
I just want to show you my opinion that's typical European:
We know that we are no superpower and we know that it is the USA. But why should be our right place under the thumb of the USA? At the moment there's a big gulf between Europe and the USA. We aren't interessted in a fight against the USA (there would be no reason)but we don't think that the arguments for the iraq-war are right.
But why do you think we would submit to you and your ideals? We would never do that! and we would never dare to attack you!
but what I've read here really shocked me and let me feel very angry!We arent inferior, just because we don't call us America! May you don't see it, but we are a free, democratic countries!
I see you are talking about Europe, but I don't think it's the real Europe you are seeing. As a world power you would really have to know something about the rest of the world!
In American films I always hear something about your freedom, peace and liberty.
There is just a little difference to Europe:
We aren't talking about freedom... we are livin' it!

[AFPhys]

You are free "democratic" but SOCIALIST countries, for the most part.

You also are more and more willing to submit to terrorism as a political tool, as recently demonstrated by Spain as well as your submission to other policies in an attempt to appease terrorists. That way lies to breakdown of society into "city-states" and to the Dark Ages. It will not lead to freedom and liberty.

In addition, untill you throw off the way socialism penalizes your economy, you will continue to sink lower and lower.

Twenty five years ago, the US produced about a quarter of the world's economic output. We now produce about a third of it, despite the burgeoning output of China, and increasingly, India.

How do you expect to get stronger? Meanwhile, in America there is an increasingly powerful movement toward more conservative principals, and away from the welfare goverment approach we embarked on in the '60s and before. That will decrease your competitiveness with America even more!

I did not ever say that you should be "under the thumb" of America, but why on earth are "typical European" thoughts be that America must be OPPOSED essentially solely because it is the most powerful and successful country in the world? What possesses you "typical Europeans" to work against the one and only reason you are not all speaking German under a Nazi or Soviet government? What possesses you to work against the strongest economic engine the world has ever known, rather than working with it to help pull yourself up? Why do you continue to increasingly adopt the socialist policies that resulted in the economic death of the Soviet Union? Why do you continue to espouse such foolishness as the Kyoto "treaty" whose sole purpose is an attempt to slow the economic engine of the world, and which is based on nothing less than JUNK "science"?

Get real!

You and your neighbors were WRONG about Hussein, and the BRIBING of the UN and journalists and EU industry with the "oil for food" programme resulted in the death of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Iraqis, including some friends of mine. Admit at least that! Perhaps your socialist press has not yet let you in on the UN's dirty little secret about that. Google "Kurdistan Regional Government" for a nice little list of links the UN don't want you to see. The French and Germans leading the UN's delay of our purging Iraq allowed Hussein to hide and move and redeploy weaponry, and organize terrorism and the "resistance" to the new Iraqi democratic government. I, and many others here at FR, thought that President Bush was wrong to go to the UN for their blessing, and that view has been proven best, but you and your foolish buddies got the delay you wanted, and it resulted in even more casualties there.

I can not think of a single good thing that has been accomplished by the UN or our association with Old Europe since 1992.

I have no need to ask you "submit to [my] ideals"; the way you are going you will all be "Third World" countries soon enough - replete with an economy and barbarian practices most prominently associated with Africa of a century ago. And as far as being concerned you would "attack" us --- with What? That most certainly doesn't concern me! Frankly, if I were concerned at all about that, I would encourage that you simply continue for the next twenty years on the path you've been on the previous twenty.

Appeasement of terrorists - the ticket to freedom - sure, just ask Poland and Chamberlain!

Socialism - yeah, that's the ticket to prosperity! Just ask Krushev!
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