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HERE’S A TIP: NOT LEAVING ONE IS LEGAL
ABAJournal ^ | September 24, 2004 | Stephanie Francis Ward

Posted on 11/10/2004 12:29:27 PM PST by billorites

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To: Redbob
A 20% tip is ridiculous when a beer or glass of wine is $5 or more, and takes no more than a minute to deliver; subtract the cost of drinks from a meal, THEN leave a 20% tip, and you're back to no more than maybe a 10%- 15% tip overall.

Cheeeaappppp, cheap, cheap, cheap; Cheeeeaappppp, cheap, cheap, cheap.

I was recently at the local pub/restaurant down the street from my office when one of the local leftist college professors complained because the bar tender served me first even though he was there first. The bartender's response: He's a better tipper.

The bottom line is that you are free to tip 10% if you want, but I wouldn't brag about it, nor would I complain if you get lousy service the next time you go back to that place. Also, don't complain the next time you go out to eat and an illegal Mexican is waiting on you because the owner of the place can't find legals willing to work for $3.85 per hour plus tips.

81 posted on 11/10/2004 1:26:33 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Sloth

They do pay you, with better service.

I guarantee you in a system where you don't tip the service will be worse.


82 posted on 11/10/2004 1:26:46 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: pkp1184
Honey, I hate to break it to you but that's what you're there to do--serve the customers. If no one has explained that to you before no wonder you're so stressed out about your job.
83 posted on 11/10/2004 1:27:10 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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To: jpsb

I'm not disagreeing with you that good servers deserve tips - I don't mind 20%, 15 even for less than better service. I do take offense that because a tip is not as expected, the customer most often is the first to be "blamed".

BTW, how can someone conscienciously hire an employee for $2.15/hr and expect them to live on tips then bash a customer who's equally a tight-wad with money?


84 posted on 11/10/2004 1:29:47 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: billorites

A party of eight spent only $77? Huh?


85 posted on 11/10/2004 1:29:48 PM PST by Petronski (Great job team! Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: pkp1184
Tell that to the single moms in my restaurant who barely make ends meet.

I hate to ask the obvious, but why don't you raise your prices and pay them more if you're so concerned?

86 posted on 11/10/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: MissouriConservative
If your service is good, I MAY tip you and I may not, that is my CHOICE What a great attitude. Everyone should be required to hold at least one restaurant job in their lifetime. It's quite eye-opening. You're not being held hostage to anything, you're showing common courtesy. Would you rather serve yourself? Because if you "may or may not" tip even if the service is good, there'll be no more servers out there to wait on you.
87 posted on 11/10/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by pkp1184
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To: jpsb

If your girls have to live on tips, then why aren't yopu paying them a decent wage? Tips are not an expectation, they are a gratuity that should be earned.


88 posted on 11/10/2004 1:31:24 PM PST by doc30
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To: billorites

My buddy J.C. was a server in college. With large parties, he always informs the party that he is waiving the "mandatory" tip.

He proceeds to reccomend that if they are happy with the service they can leave a suggested tip of 18% or 22%. He does the math for the customers, and places the "suggested tips" at the top of the bill.

He consistently got a number in between the two... around 20%.

As far as some of the other comments on the thread...

If you want your waiter/waitress to earn more tip more.

If you want to pay them a higher hourly salary... open your own restaruant.


89 posted on 11/10/2004 1:31:36 PM PST by rwilson99 (I am a South Park Republican)
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To: JanetteS

HONEY, I'm a server, not a servant. There is a difference. I serve people food and drinks, I'm not a submissive doormat.


90 posted on 11/10/2004 1:32:13 PM PST by pkp1184
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To: Petronski
A party of eight spent only $77? Huh?

Spaghetti with no sauce and a side order of water?

92 posted on 11/10/2004 1:32:50 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: TheBigB

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/hooters2004.html

Do you have the free hooters calendar?


93 posted on 11/10/2004 1:32:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Dan Rather called Saddam "Mister President and President Bush "bush")
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To: azhenfud

Ramen noodles and ketchup packets.


94 posted on 11/10/2004 1:34:20 PM PST by Petronski (Great job team! Head back to base for debriefing and cocktails.)
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To: Gerasimov
That mandatory tipping policy in restaurants has always driven me nuts. I ALWAYS go out of my way to be a fair tipper, and my wife generally accuses me of being way too generous if the service is extra good (um, or "extra cute") ... but I don't ever want to be told I HAVE to tip.

I have the exact same policy as you for the exact same reasons when it comes to tipping. I hate places where I am told I have to tip. Like why bother having a tipping process. It is like a hidden tax that is in the fineprint.

95 posted on 11/10/2004 1:35:14 PM PST by hawkaw
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To: pkp1184

"Everyone should be required to hold at least one restaurant job in their lifetime."


I held a job in a restaurant. I was a busboy in high school and my first year of college. I busted my butt while the waitresses claimed the tips. I never once saw a waitress lift a finger to bus a table, they always waved us over after they took the tip off of the table. The boss had an idea to pool the tips and give the busboys a percentage and the waitresses had a cow and the idea was scrapped.

And it's not "common courtesy", the waitresses are there to do a job and they get paid to do it by the employer. It's not my fault that the employer is too cheap to pay a good wage is it?

And most of the places I go to I usually go to the all you can eat buffets. All the waitress has to do is keep my drink filled and some of them can't do that right. I'm not going to be told I have to pay something.


96 posted on 11/10/2004 1:37:48 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We will always remember, always be proud, always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: mysterio; DaiHuy

"Reservoir Dogs"...excellent movie - I think this thread is sounding verbatim to that very scene!


97 posted on 11/10/2004 1:39:50 PM PST by dave k
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To: Petronski

Now, that's cheeeeep!!

My daughter LOVES ramen noodles.

A guy at church who often confuses his speech said, "Anna, say you love Roman numerals?" My wife and I cracked up!
(he also says there's a "Martha Lootin King holiday in Janurary"


98 posted on 11/10/2004 1:41:17 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: pkp1184
If you'll go back and read all my comments you'll see that I never referred to you as a servant or implied that you should be treated as one.

As someone who has been both a server and restaurant manager I said that the tips should be earned.

I simply don't subscribe to your theory that I should tip someone well when I get poor service. I don't think that a servers personal situation (single mother) or financial situation (makes $2.13 an hour) should have any bearing on how much I tip them. I tip solely on the merits of the service they provide though I do take into consideration valid extenuating circumstances.

Personally, I enjoyed waitressing and I was very good at it. I know what it takes to be a good server and I know what the excuses are of the crappy ones. I tip accordingly.

99 posted on 11/10/2004 1:42:24 PM PST by JanetteS (My heart is as light as a song!)
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