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Is Wal-Mart Good for America?
PBS ^ | 11/8/2004 | Press Release

Posted on 11/09/2004 1:11:34 PM PST by Willie Green

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To: Pinetop
>This is old news. I understand Walmart is cheap. But, as
>my grandmother used to say, "your wish has been granted,
>now you have to pay for it." People want the low prices,
>the schlocky goods and they don't care about slave labor
>in China so long as they can buy a lot for less. I guess
>there are people who don't care that the neighborhood
>stores are shuttered and that they have to drive from
>mega-parking lot to mega-parking lot. But, you can't stop
>progress or consumer choice. If it's not Walmart, it's K
>Mart, Target---Maybe I am the old news.

NAFTA at work, if we want protectionism, then let's have it, but WalMart is just a retailing system. The retailer is not the problem.

IMHO
121 posted on 11/09/2004 2:20:22 PM PST by DelphiUser (The only good thing about Kerry is he comes with his own Ketchup)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"100 years from now, PBS won't be able to have an "Antiques Roadshow." There won't be anything left from the early 21st century, because it was all cheap Chinese crap that fell apart in 10 years. And good 20th century American furniture will be worth its weight in gold."
 
 
Hey, Did not mean to say you could not purchase anything you want, anywhere you want from anyone you want.  That is the beauty of America.  We, you and I, have a choice. 
 
"This quote ought to make everyone's hair stand up:

"Wal-Mart and China are a joint venture.""
 
May I ask the source for this quote?  If not it will be accepted anyway.   
 
At least 100 years from now "Antiques Roadshow"  will have a "a solid cherry TV cabinet made in America by Baker Road. Beautiful piece of furniture"  to spotlight on their show.  In no way was there an intent to 'influence' your purchases. 
 
Very glad that you had the means to acquire a great piece of furniture.  (My wife likes Berkey & Gay. [They are already antiques that will be around also for the 'Roadshow'  in a hundred years or so.])
 
Meant no offense just informing you of the 'DSA' intent to stifle 'capitalism', if I did not do that you have my sincerest apologies. 
 
Have a Grandson, attending college here in Albuquerque, who has had to make purchases at Wal-Mart.  I am glad that they were there for him.  Being in a 'third world setting', New Mexico there are a lot of people who would do without if the Wal-Marts were closed.
 
Again no OFFENSE INTENDED.  :^p ilgrim 

123 posted on 11/09/2004 2:21:53 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: sinkspur
"I shop almost nowhere else BUT Wal-Mart"

It shows.

Color us surprised.

124 posted on 11/09/2004 2:21:54 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Getsmart64

That is interesting about dropping the EU and going back to the Lira. What is the motivation for that?


125 posted on 11/09/2004 2:22:10 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: annyokie

We have two Family owned grocerty stores in the community. Tonight, our city council will vote on a rezoning issue that would allow a second Super Walmart to be built in our community. Terre Haute has about 60,000 and we're the biggest city between St. Louis and Indianapolis, or for about 75 miles in any direction for that matter. The two Mom and Pop Groceries here pay almost a dollar more per hour, There are no old men or old women running the register; instead, we have college students.

Terre Haute is also the home of the Hulman family (think Indianapolis 500), which made millions by allowing the mom & pop stores to buy half a case of a product in stead of a whole case.

While I agree that the market should decide, I also feel that Walmart has stacked the deck in its favor.

The vote will probably pass tonight, and several mom & pops will bite the dust.


126 posted on 11/09/2004 2:23:21 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: rgrun; Getsmart64

It makes little difference if you pay $200.00 or $70.00 for a DVD or $2000.00 or $500.00 for a computer, they more than likely will be obsolete before they wear out. Anyone want to buy an expensive Betamax, 8 track, Technics turntable, cassette players and recorder,etc.,etc.


127 posted on 11/09/2004 2:24:31 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Trained by English Setters)
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To: trashcanbred

Sure is. I was once an IT contractor at another one of their subsidiaries in the US. We found it very difficult to get the Thomson mothership to do the damnedest little things.


128 posted on 11/09/2004 2:25:45 PM PST by gura
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To: RightOnline

You might want to check out this link if you think slave labor is Chinese nostalgia: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/1/10/200712.shtml
Also, the Chinese are presently having large-scale religious uprisings and repression among the Muslim populations.

Always have to have an eye on China, because I predict it will explode with repression in the next 10 years.


130 posted on 11/09/2004 2:26:33 PM PST by Pinetop
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To: Windsong

What is your problem? Serious why are you ridiculing people who shop at Walmart? And no... I don't shop that often there except for certain items (mostly oil filters) but some people have less economic choices and I find it insulting when people put them down.

You sound like those nit wits over at the DU calling the Red States a bunch of hillbillies. And no... I am from the Blue State of NJ, unfortunately... but not born here.


131 posted on 11/09/2004 2:27:28 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Willie Green

Has anyone gone to one of the Wal-Mart Neighborhood Markets? The one a few miles from my house is clean, fresh produce, and smells wonderful. It's just the grocery section.


132 posted on 11/09/2004 2:28:50 PM PST by HungarianGypsy (Envision getting off your hippie butt and getting a job.)
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To: Pondman88

You and me both. Houston-area Wal-Marts are like unindustrialixed countries: stuffy, very dirty, crowded.


133 posted on 11/09/2004 2:29:36 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: trashcanbred
"That is interesting about dropping the EU and going back to the Lira. What is the motivation for that?"

Well...I'm not an economics major or anything...but the whole concept of the EU is based on a lie....take from the more productive nations and give to the less productive nations so that all are equal and stronger as a result...Northern Italy is economically strong...and as a whole...Italy does pretty good...but under the EU...they take from the strong and give to the weak...no good can come from that...Italians are pretty upset...but the whole Italian political system is and has been for MANY years awry...
134 posted on 11/09/2004 2:31:28 PM PST by Getsmart64 (LANTIRN - Designed to kill, maim, and destroy ....America's enemies...)
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To: Getsmart64

I'm 6' 5" and weigh 190. I take a 36-inch inseam and a 37-inch sleave on my shirts. I can't buy anything other than shorts and t-shirts from walmart, Kmart, Meijers, and any other over-sized bib box.


135 posted on 11/09/2004 2:33:09 PM PST by Military family member (Go Colts!)
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To: Military family member

We live in a resort town that has a constant population of around 8,000 citizens that swells to 20,000 during the season. The city is also on the Reservation as is the county.

Lowes built a store here last summer and were clobbering the local lumberyards and hardware store for a few months. No more. That said, we built a new barn this summer and the quote on materials was hundreds of dollars less at Lowes than at X's lumberyard.

I won't shop at the local grocery other than the soon to be defunct Farmer's Market (lousy management and surly employees) becuase of their poor service.

Adam Smith was right. I know what you are saying though. Walmart has waged a battle in Lancaster PA for ages to build a superstore. Most people do not like Walmart for myriad reasons, but convenience is a consideration for more and more families.


136 posted on 11/09/2004 2:33:15 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: bushisdamanin04

correspondent Hedrick Smith examines the growing controversy over the Wal-Mart way of doing business and asks whether a single retail giant has changed the American economy.

A hundred to one says that Mr. Smith doesn't acknowledge the government has done several magnitude more harm to the economy than he implies Wal-Mart has.

I appears that PBS will be aggravating the disease/cancer by promoting the treatment of the symptoms with Bad-Aid relief. Allowing the cancer to spread further -- perhaps devouring Wal-Mart.

Rep. Bill Archer, Chairman, House Ways and Means Committee:

"A recent survey was done, in Europe and Japan, of the major corporations and I was astounded at the results. They were asked, 'If the US abolished its income tax and went to a sales tax, would that have any impact on your decisions?' Eighty percent of the corporations said they would build their factories in the United States of America. Twenty percent said they would move their international headquarters to the United States of America."
Wow! Jobs, jobs jobs and more jobs!

Abolishing the IRS and implementing the Fair Tax (NRST) with an average 22% reduction in the cost of producing/manufacturing products the RCA plant and virtually al U.S. based companies would have a competitive price advantage against exports and imports..

137 posted on 11/09/2004 2:34:49 PM PST by Zon
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To: winston61
In the town where I live the city fathers forked over $7,000,000.00 in taxpayer funded give aways to get a distribution center. Mean while the local downtown looks like a ghost town. Local business closes down and quality and choice of goods goes out the window.

Recently, I visited several small towns in a rulal southwest Virginia county. Each of the main streets in the four towns I visited reminded me of Belfast, Northern Ireland. Stores and offices were shuttered and abandoned. I wondered what terrible financial crisis had demolished these towns. Then, a mile from the county seat, I came across Walmrt.

I cannot see how that county benefited by allowing their downtown business to die. Whatever Walmart may pay in taxes and salary cannot possibly exceed what this county lost when the local merchants and professionals closed down.

138 posted on 11/09/2004 2:35:22 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Military family member

I understand that this upsets you. I can only ask though would the alternative be better for society? Would it be better if we throw a layer of legal protectionism over the mom and pop stores? No it would really not be good.

In the end what matters most is that consumers have choice of where they can shop, not by allowing it to be restricted. And as for being fair... well... in the business world very little is fair is it? Capitalism is never "fair" to the business owners, that is why they must work hard to get customers in.

A Walmart opened up nearby about a year ago and so far, the smaller stores are still in play and one place I go to buy my morning coffee seems to be still doing well (even with really higher prices).


140 posted on 11/09/2004 2:37:14 PM PST by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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