[Simmy2.5]

If they are going to secede, they should do only secede the coastline. The 'heartland' of California, as well as in other so-called Blue States, all voted for Bush.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Same here in Washington. They can take some of the coastal counties (not all).

[okie01]

"Red states" vs "blue states" is misleading.

Actually, the distinction is between "red states" and "blue cities".

And, if they want to secede on that basis, they'll be getting almost all of the problems...and almost none of the solutions.

The city/state of Philadelphia, indeed!