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To: DrewsDad

I remember very specifically (and I'm sure some of you heard it), Susan Estrich was on (FNC I believe) and said (close paraphrase)that she had it on very good word that Kerry was going to win this county. I wondered about it at the time, and this makes me wonder even more - - how could she be so sure about votes in this specific county.
This smells Big Time!


39 posted on 11/08/2004 8:15:08 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: Seattle Conservative

No, there never was going to be any doubt about Cuyahoga County. It was going to Kerry no matter whether fraud occurs or not. But, the vote margin is what is in question.


42 posted on 11/08/2004 8:17:25 PM PST by Tuxedo (Not now John, we gotta get on with the film show)
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To: Seattle Conservative
Your # 39 is most astute, and I thank you for the reminder. Estrich called her source, very good friends, very high up, very knowledgeable...isn't that basically how she described them?
44 posted on 11/08/2004 8:22:31 PM PST by YaYa123 (@You saw it here first. com)
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To: Seattle Conservative
I wondered about it at the time, and this makes me wonder even more - - how could she be so sure about votes in this specific county.

One would think they would have had the math down better this time after they failed to steal election 2000 in FL.

But, apparently, Bush had too much of a lead for them to overcome...
46 posted on 11/08/2004 8:26:59 PM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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To: Seattle Conservative

I don't think Susan Estrich has any memory of election night! (was she hammered or what!!?? I swear she almost vomited three times when speaking to Brit Hume!!)


60 posted on 11/08/2004 8:48:06 PM PST by blinachka
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To: Seattle Conservative

I don't get it, is it just me? SHE WAS THE DUKAKIS CAMPAIGN MANAGER! If you take a candidate and turn his campaign into one of the laughingstocks of American politics you get to be a "pundit" that people listen to?

Why do people have such short political memories?

/anti susan "scary face" estrich rant


63 posted on 11/08/2004 8:51:57 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (I got political capital and I intend to spend it!)
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To: Seattle Conservative
"I remember very specifically (and I'm sure some of you heard it), Susan Estrich was on (FNC I believe) and said (close paraphrase)that she had it on very good word that Kerry was going to win this county."

The rule of thumb is that a Republican must be 100 thousand votes ahead in the rest of the state of Ohio to be able to sustain the loss of Cuyahoga county. Cuyahoga county is the most Democratic county in the state. There was never any doubt that Kerry would carry Cuyahoga county.

Susan Estridge was buying the Democrats belief that they had 250 thousand new votes. When they did not show up at the polls, they figured they had been given provisional ballots. Susan thought that when the final third of Cuyahoga county came in, Kerry would take the lead.

What she did not know is that nearly all of Hamilton county was still out. Hamilton county goes as Repubican as Cuyahoga goes Democratic. Hamilton county normally reports long before Cuyahoga county. But Hamilton county had a huge number of write in votes for the local prosecutors office. So there were at least as many Republican votes out as Democratic votes.

Susan as well as the Kerry campaign were ill informed. The Kerry sources did not tell her about Hamilton county and Warren Ohio.

It was very apparent that the Kerry camp did not understand Ohio as well as Karl Rove. Karl was well aware of what was happening in Clermont, Warren and Hamilton counties. Kerry only knew what to expect in Cuyahoga county. It was not nearly enough.

79 posted on 11/08/2004 9:12:15 PM PST by Common Tator
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