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'We are not here to liberate Iraq, we're here to fight the infidels'
The Guardian ^ | 11/9/04 | Ghaith Abdul-Ahad

Posted on 11/08/2004 6:46:44 PM PST by saquin

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To: saquin
asked one of them, a young teacher from Saudi Arabia, why he was there. He started reading the verses in the Qur'an that urge Muslims to commit jihad. He read about the importance of martyrdom.

Guess he needs to talk to the REAL muslims...the moderates who live in the USA eh?

It's really a religion of peace...

41 posted on 11/08/2004 7:21:33 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: angkor

..."shouting "Allahu Akbar" every time they heard explosions, believing it would divert the missiles away."

Interesting, certainly some anthropologist could make some
correlation between this and the Ghost Shirt Society??

Yep one extinct, one soon to be.


42 posted on 11/08/2004 7:22:05 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dinok
Can you image what World War II would have been like if CNN had been embedded with the troops landing on Omaha Beach?

Every time I hear the media whine about a casualty, I think of that.

43 posted on 11/08/2004 7:22:59 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: dinok

I doubt that most in this country could tolerate fighting a war like that again. many of us have become risk averse in war.


44 posted on 11/08/2004 7:24:20 PM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: Paladin2

rofl


45 posted on 11/08/2004 7:25:48 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election... failed.)
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To: saquin
"One kind, Arab fighters from the new generation of the jihad diaspora, were teachers, workers and students from across the Arab world feeling oppressed and alienated by the west; they came to Iraq with dreams of martyrdom."

I hope that all of their dreams come true.

"The amir told me: "All we want is the Americans to leave, and then everything will be fine, the Kurds will stop talking about seceding from Iraq, the Shias will stop talking about settling scores with Sunnis and each province will elect a council and these councils will elect a president."

And he also has a bridge and some low lying real estate to sell.

46 posted on 11/08/2004 7:27:38 PM PST by yooper (If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there......)
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To: Graybeard58

Great reading. Thanks.


47 posted on 11/08/2004 7:28:38 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Army Air Corps; Chemist_Geek; Zeroisanumber

"I doubt that most in this country could tolerate fighting a war like that again."

They would have no choise if we got in to another World War. One reason why we need to stand firm now so it will not get to that point.


48 posted on 11/08/2004 7:29:42 PM PST by dinok
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To: NY Attitude

Yeah, that was my feeling. Guardian sends these "journalist" in there to show these Jihadists are just regular patriots eager for their own homeland and democracy. Yeah, right.


49 posted on 11/08/2004 7:30:46 PM PST by elhombrelibre (The people have spoken even if Liberals don't like what they've said.)
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To: elhombrelibre

It sounds like the Marines are expediting the insurgents wish to meet Allah.


50 posted on 11/08/2004 7:36:25 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: dinok

Yep. Think of how much suffering could have been avoided if the US entered the war in 1939 and worked with the UK on the Continent. I prefer to draw the terroristas to Iraq and kill them their en masse so that they cannot immigrate to the US and establish cells here.


51 posted on 11/08/2004 7:37:37 PM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: saquin

Its time for us to implement the urban equivalent to the "highway of death."


52 posted on 11/08/2004 7:38:17 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer (Four More Years!)
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To: elhombrelibre

I expect no less from the Guardian; it is to the left of the LA Times, The Village Voice, and the NYT.


53 posted on 11/08/2004 7:39:12 PM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: Army Air Corps

More than anyone, I hope the Marines target this reporter and the AP one who has been glorifying these losers.


54 posted on 11/08/2004 7:43:53 PM PST by Elvis van Foster
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To: yooper
"The amir told me: "All we want is the Americans to leave, and then everything will be fine, the Kurds will stop talking about seceding from Iraq, the Shias will stop talking about settling scores with Sunnis and each province will elect a council and these councils will elect a president."

The thought occurred to me that with the worst case scenarios -- the fundies take over the Iraq or the country is rent by civil war, or both, this guy might seek to skeddadle to the US (or other Western country) as a "refugee." So would many of the "Allah Akbar"-spouting, infidel hating, psychotics he is serving with. Veterans of the north Vietnamese forces in the Vietnam War are living in the US as "refugees."

Excellent article -- very enlightening.

55 posted on 11/08/2004 7:44:36 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess

Yes, but the DRVN "refugees" steer clear of places like Westminster, Houston, Dallas, etc. They usually go where lefty intelligentsia clamour to hear tales of the Workers Paradise.


56 posted on 11/08/2004 7:48:07 PM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: saquin

They talked about how martyrs would not feel pain

Dude is going to learn some hard lessons shortly, which if he survives will leave him so disillusioned with mohammed worshipping that he commits suicide.

57 posted on 11/08/2004 7:58:29 PM PST by fso301
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To: Army Air Corps
Yes, but the DRVN "refugees" steer clear of places like Westminster, Houston, Dallas, etc. They usually go where lefty intelligentsia clamour to hear tales of the Workers Paradise.

Thanks, that's interesting to know. Of course, if Communist Vietnam is the "Worker's Paradise," what are they doing here?

58 posted on 11/08/2004 9:13:29 PM PST by Siamese Princess
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To: Siamese Princess

we all know the answer to that one ;-).


59 posted on 11/08/2004 9:16:33 PM PST by Army Air Corps (One John is unemployed and the other will soon get a pink slip)
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To: SquirrelKing

'In the front yard of a half-built house in Falluja, a dozen fighters sat in a semicircle.' \\


Do NOT say it!!


60 posted on 11/08/2004 9:28:26 PM PST by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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