Posted on 11/08/2004 1:33:40 PM PST by finnman69
You're not gonna find it over at DU, that's for sure...
FReegards.
"They did cut it short, why I don't know. I will say the extension is a common phrase in Catholicism, just not in the LP."
It is curious though!
for all liberal a$$es http://forum.protestwarrior.com/avatars/11010435024191509a91df6.jpg
Brit's panel segment was just discussing the rash of conspiracy theories they've received from the dem's about this "stolen" election. Charles Krauthammer stated that similar theories have been around for decades calling to mind Hillary's "vast right wing conspiracy" that made Bill Clinton misbehave. Krauthammer made me stand and cheer when he bravely admitted to be a board member of the VRWC! Bravo Mr. Krauthammer.
great line
[...]I believe it was the Catholic church which altered the Lord's prayer to EXCLUDE the final statement which says, "for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen". The Bible does include the final statement.
IIRC, the phrase is found in later manuscripts but not in the oldest available ones. Some would say that the phrase was added later; others would doubt the accuracy of the older manuscripts (e.g., "the fact that they survived was because they weren't used as much because they were known to be faulty"). I am not a Biblical scholar but I believe a search for Textus Receptus and/or Westcott-Hort and/or Nestle Greek Text will give you some pages about this.
Look up Matthew 18:11, for example. The KJV, based on the Textus Receptus, includes this phrase. However, I believe Westcott-Hort does not--so some Bibles do not even have a Matthew 18:11. Try sites like http://users.htcomp.net/gatewaybc/on_line_articles/modern_bible_versions.htm and http://www.fundamentalbiblechurch.org/Tracts/fbcnasv.htm and beware that the New King James Version differs greatly from the King James Version, just like the New American Standard Version differs from the American Standard Version.
The nature of the changed/omitted versus make the Bible seem more liberal, so I do think you're on the right track as to why they are supported by liberals and opposed by evangelicals. Still, the argument about the older age of "liberal" manuscripts is compelling to many. >
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