Why We Lost (lack of a clear sense of what the party stands for)

NY Times ^ | November 5, 2004 | editorial

[Robert_Paulson2]

The overarching problem Democrats have today is the lack of a clear sense of what the party stands for.

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B fricken S.

the overarching problem is that the nation has a VERY CLEAR SENSE of EXACTLY what the Democrat party stands for:

• abuse of power
• taxation beyond representation
• federal involvement in every detail of our lives
• homosexuality
• attacks on people of evangelical and fundamentalist catholic faith
• institutionalized lying
• institutionalized cheating
• institutionalized stealing
• screwing around on the public payroll
• desecration of the family
• baby murder
• destruction of privately owned business
• destruction of private property rights
• destruction of the right to own a gun and use it to defend yourself, family, or life
• queers running wild in the classroom
• destruction of the role of MEN in our families, churches, community and defense of the nation
• destruction of the military
• destruction of our national sovereignty
• attacks on our right to eat dead animals for food
• attacks on every manifestation of truthful and peaceful religion
• embracement of every perverse, death worshipping cult as if it were a religion deserving of our religious freedom... and the more jews it kills, the more it must be protected and nurtured... (islamism)
• sacrifice of the good, hard working people in the RED zone of the nation, to pay for the lazy, do nothing, dependency class in the blue zones.
• restrictions, regulations and licensing of every aspect of our lives, all for the benefit of governments elite and their ever growing dependency class.

that's what they stand for in brief.

America knows all to well what they stand for, and the 51 percent of us that have had it with their diseased defecation they continually offer as 'democracy'... quite frankly make us want to vomit.

In fact, that is what we the 51 did to the 48 percenters this election, we vomited them out of power every where we had the chance.

Screw them. Screw them to the walls and let em hang there til they rot. Just like they have this nation since the election of FDR.

I hope they focus group and analyze this loss to death. They are the party of defeat and NO ideas. Their only use now, is that of a rotting flesh corpse lesson of a cautionary tale...

Let them rot in their own self delusion and contempt. America has rejected them and their ideals. I hope this is the end of their party. May their party shatter and splinter into oblivion.

[shibumi]

I've been telling people for years that JFKennedy was the first Reagan Republican (even before Rush said it on his show). The problem is, most of these people either were too young to remember, studied history in public (yech!) schools or are just plain blinded by party loyalty. (Actual quote from my grandmother "...I'm a Catholic first, a Democrat second, and an American third." This was just before she feigned a heart attack to try to keep me from enlisting in the Army in 1968.)

You just can't reason with people like these!

[LZ_Bayonet]

"I don't pretend to know exactly what the party should do now. But I do know that we better start answering some important questions. What is our economic vision in a globalized world? How do we respond to the desire of many Americans to have choices and decision-making power of their own? How can we speak to Americans' moral and spiritual yearnings? How can our national security vision be broader than just a critique of the Republican's foreign policy? If we sweep this debate under the rug, four years from now another set of people around another conference table will be struggling with the same issues we did."

NYT, But if you were to answer these questions honestly you would become Republicans. Just skip the conference table and change your party affiliation.

[EGPWS]

On Wednesday morning, Democrats across the country awoke to a situation they have not experienced since before the New Deal: We are now, without a doubt, America's minority party. We do not have the presidency. We are outnumbered in the Senate, the House, governorships and legislatures. And the conservative majority on the Supreme Court seems likely to be locked in place for a generation. It is clearly a moment that calls for serious reflection.

Yep, reactive while slamming proactive, it's the dogma of the Democratic party.

Thank God we continue to have a proactive President in a time of war.

[ladyinred]

Misguided as they may be, the Republicans have a clear vision of America's future

Well there is your problem right there honey! The American voter obviously disagrees with your assessment of that vision.

[broadsword]

...lack of a clear sense of what the party stands for...

No, morons, you lost because the people got a clear sense of the freakish disorders you liars stand for. Now crawl back under your sewer grates and STFU.

[I_dmc]

If they had as much intelligence as they think they do, they'd ask one simple question. "What did Clinton do to win two terms"? Answer: He co-opted the Republican platform. That obviously wouldn't work again, so they fell back to the liberal platform that they hold in their hearts. If they want a future as a national party, they should co-opt the Libertarian platform.

[CyberAnt]

"If they ever fully embrace their liberal beliefs, they will run away with every branch of government in the landslide"

You must be kidding? The farther left the dems go .. the more elections they have lost. They're about as close as they can get to fully embracing their liberal beliefs.

[shibumi]

The only problem for them is, if they ENACT the libertarian platform, they legislate themselves out of existence.

[raivyn]

LOL. They are "sick of standing in the rain". Most people have sense enough to come in out of the rain. Duuuuuummies.

[dancusa]

Wow, W. Cleon Skousen had great foresight. By looking into communist goals, the Democratic Party has morphed into a subversive party by 1960 standards. This list is just amazing, thanks.

[I_dmc]

Do tell. ;-)

[slimer]

As a loser, I had the honor of working for both Al Gore and John Kerry. And in my time working for Al Gore and John Kerry, it certainly left me feeling like a loser.

[NYCVirago]

Misguided as they may be, the Republicans have a clear vision of America's future. Confronted with their ambitious agenda we have not chosen to match it. Instead, we have adopted Nancy Reagan's old antidrug motto, "Just Say No." As in "Stop George Bush's Assault on the Environment," "Repeal George Bush's Tax Cuts for the Wealthy" and "End George Bush's Policy of Unilateralism." These are good stands. But they are not enough. And the Republicans ended up defining John Kerry because we did not.

This is an amazing admission.

[mabelkitty]

They need to change their platform.
If they do, they will only end up Republican-lite, and they can't win that way either.
The country has changed, and will continue to change. The only thing they can do is split into two parties.

[Walkingfeather]

Know what the significant difference is to me? Bill, Hillary, Gore, Kerry the quest for power oozed out of their pours. You could see it miles away. No one wants someone to be president that has a bloodlust for power. Bush on the otherhand seems like he can take it or leave it, that it is a duty and honor to serve rather than what he can do with the power. I think that is what the dems project and changing it is impossible because it comes from the heart.

[Ditter]

I like thinking the clintons led their party astray but is that accurate? Was the democrat party this bad before them?

[Walkingfeather]

heheheh Brilliant line

[Walkingfeather]

I dont think the term "big Business" was used in the sixties so I am thinking some of this was made up after the fact.

[savedbygrace]

Mary Beth Cahill has the distinction of losing two campaigns in one election cycle. Clark and Kerry. Bwahahahaha.

Bob Shrum is 0 for 8.

Why do they keep getting hired?