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To: finnman69

Maybe I'm reading to much into all this, but does anyone else think that at some point in America's future we will have to take this behavior for what it is, confront it, and exterminate it? We are at war whether the other side likes it or not. At what point do these people become "enemies of the state?" What line do they have to cross? Just curious.


14 posted on 11/04/2004 7:42:17 PM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: Shortwave

Think that you have a great point, however, they tend to add the red color to the map. Play up these wackos and we'll win more seats in 2006.


26 posted on 11/04/2004 7:46:47 PM PST by Kahuna
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To: Shortwave
Maybe I'm reading to much into all this, but does anyone else think that at some point in America's future we will have to take this behavior for what it is, confront it, and exterminate it?

YES! This is the Arab Street on American soil. The MSM elites have created this. We must keep up the fight on the MSM to eliminate the anti-war propaganda. It's a terrorist tool.

45 posted on 11/04/2004 7:54:29 PM PST by DaveMSmith (In a person, prayer is truth, and a person is continually at prayer when living according to truth.)
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To: Shortwave
I believe strongly in freedom of speech and would never stop these freaks from having their say. However, these people are in many cases as Un-American as the Ku Klux Klan. The left says condemning these weirdos is intolerance. If that is the case, their condemnation of the Klan is intolerance. The fact is you can honor and defend the freedom of speech while still saying some of the speech you defend is bad for society. The hate spewed by the KKK harms society, and these far left loonies harm society. I do not think we need to "exterminate" this behavior, but I do think we need to teach our children that this behavior is vile and should be condemned. Like the Klan, it is legal, but despicable. Tolerance does not mean we have to pretend harmful speech is good for society.

Sadly, these people you see holding the "save Palestine, kill a Jew signs" (my translation) are probably largely educators. These photos could well be the Faculty Directory for Berkeley or U.C. Davis. We have largely ceded higher education, the press, and the entertainment industry to the hard left. This year's election cycle has shown us that as clearly as ever before. Fortunately, the outcome of the election and the apparent importance of values in voters' decisions show that it is not too late to save our children from the lies the left floods us with through the media and universities.

I believe we in the non-leftist population (meaning conservatives as well as those in the middle who do not accept the values [or non-values] of the far left) need to take back the universities, newsrooms, and movie studios. We can only do that through participation and exercising some choice in media usage and educational choices. We have already shown the power of participation in the rise of talk radio and Internet resources like FR. We have also shown the power of choice by the rapid rise of Fox News in the cable ratings (from brand new to the highest rated cable network in a few short years - that is amazing). We need to do the same with universities (by sending our children and monetary donations preferentially to universities that are more like George Mason than Berkeley) and entertainment (some day someone in Hollywood will discover you can make more money by making movies like "Forest Gump" than by making trash like "Kill Bill," then we can exercise our choice). But we also need to exercise our choices by avoiding giving our money to those who spew leftist garbage.

Well, that's my rant for the week. To turn back to your original question, are these "enemies of the state?" I do not think they are in the sense the government needs to take action to silence them. I do think they are "enemies of society," and though we allow them their freedom of speech, we need to take some action to make their ideas as unacceptable to our society as those of the Klan. That is not intolerance, it is self-preservation.
125 posted on 11/04/2004 8:51:44 PM PST by Law is not justice but process
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To: Shortwave
What line do they have to cross? Just curious.

these guys can protest. they are idiots, but free speech is allowed. i would take names though. in case there ever is a draft, they would be at the top of the list. they could be the first parachutists into iran...

140 posted on 11/04/2004 9:29:07 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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