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To: publius1

"If the heartland feels so alienated from us, then it behooves us to wrap our arms around the heartland,"

You just try. This backwards Illinois redneck will kick your wimpy NY butt.

We have a theory here that how far you made it inland after your boat landed proves how tough you are. I'd say there's a lot of evidence that it's true.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 5:47:49 AM PST by CrazyIvan (What's the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Michael Moore? About 150 pounds.)
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To: CrazyIvan
"[h]ow far you made it inland after your boat landed proves how tough you are. "

Oh, I really like that one. Long time reader but first post (at least under this name), so please try to be at least a little easy on me if you can.

In truth I do not think these articles are a bad thing (and there appear to be several of them in those swampy, blue areas of the country today). There are surly others who can state this all better than I, but I see this all as an opportunist for liberals to conduct a bit of introspection - now where it leads them (or their ability to even begin) is the key.

The problem is that at this point they seem unable to question themselves - to grasp that maybe they are the ones who might just need to reconsider a few things, to admit that maybe, just maybe, they could be wrong in their convictions. If I may, most conservatives that I know tend to welcome this and see it as an opportunity for growth, and yet it is the liberal mind (self-described 'progressive' and self-acclaimed 'tolerant') minds that appear unable (especially in these articles and tomes today) to grasp at these opportunities for a little introspection from their ivory towers.

Proof is in their own statements - it is only when they are unable to see themselves critically and as possibly needing that examination that they will have very effectively 'disenfranchised' themselves.

Again if I may, on the other hand it is the conservative mind that truly is tolerant (to a reasonable point) and respects other individual's opinions (regardless of how unconsidered and misguided) and that does not seek to foist an opinion upon anyone (no matter how wrong or stupid they may be). Most healthy individuals of any stripe, can employ some introspection if confronted with even one contrary opinion, yet these people are so, what - self-absorbed, self-righteous, arrogant? - that they cannot be critical of themselves even when confronted with over 59,000,000 contrary opinions . . . The fact that they are disturbed by it is encouraging, but not enough - life is difficult now take the next step, you may be surprised at what you find (turning red, perhaps . . .).

While I have never been to New York (and have no such plans), I truly doubt that it is one big hug-fest. What I am able to see from a safe distance is that they have managed to delude themselves and have become so convinced of their own superiority that no other opinion could be tenable. They cannot imagine how anyone would not desire to be like them and only now are fundamentally disturbed when they begin to grasp it - that they are really only little blue specs on a big red map and that they have alienated themselves.

I would hate to indict them all but but these articles indicate what many hold as fact, namely that these lib's lack the character to go further down this rather difficult road of introspection and instead only revert back to their arrogant, self-absorbed, self-righteous attitude. Conservative thinking cannot envision the imposition of a thought, yet they still seek to 'reach out' and 'embrace' the 'red' part of the country with the implicit insult that our positions and convictions cannot be anything BUT the ill-considered rantings of a poor mind, and then foist their view upon us . . . that is truly dangerous (and quite frankly in my humble opinion, obnoxious to my beloved Constitution). Then they soothe their (rightly) wounded pride and justify their arrogance by demeaning the rest of the country as less educated among other things (I will not even begin here . . .)!!

I ask, just how are we suppose to unify the country when these are the attitudes? I only hope that they are not prevalent amongst those in those blue dots on our wonderfuly red map, and that maybe there is still enough character there to question such pompous op-ed pieces as these . . . I can only hope. Sorry for the length - I'll get off the soapbox now.
170 posted on 11/04/2004 9:02:10 AM PST by Silent major
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