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Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada
us news ^ | 11/3/04

Posted on 11/03/2004 11:33:16 AM PST by knak

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Disgruntled Democrats seeking a safe Canadian haven after President Bush won Tuesday's election should not pack their bags just yet.

Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year.

"You just can't come into Canada and say 'I'm going to stay here'. In other words, there has to be an application. There has to be a reason why the person is coming to Canada," said immigration ministry spokeswoman Maria Iadinardi.

There are anywhere from 600,000 to a million Americans living in Canada, a country that leans more to the left than the United States and has traditionally favored the Democrats over the Republicans.

But recent statistics show a gradual decline in U.S. citizens coming to work in Canada, which has a creaking publicly funded healthcare system and relatively high levels of personal taxation.

Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about a move to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.

"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one government official.

Roger King of the Toronto-based Democrats Abroad group said he had heard nothing to back up talk of a possible exodus of party members.

"I imagine most committed Democrats will want to stay in the United States and continue being politically active there," he told Reuters.

Americans seeking to immigrate can apply to become permanent citizens of Canada, a process that often takes a year. Becoming a full citizen takes a further three years.

The other main way to move north on a long-term basis is to find a job, which in all cases requires a work permit. This takes from four to six months to come through.

Official statistics show the number of U.S. workers entering Canada dropped to 15,789 in 2002 from 21,627 in 2000. Early indicators on Wednesday showed little sign of this changing.

A spokesman for Canada's foreign affairs ministry said there had been no increase in the number of hits on the Washington embassy's immigration Web site, while housing brokers said they doubted they would see a surge in U.S. business.

"Canada's always open and welcoming to Americans who want to relocate here, but we don't think it would be a trend or movement," said Gino Romanese of Royal Lepage Residential Real Estate Services in Toronto.

Those wishing to move to Canada could always take a risk and claim refugee status -- the path chosen earlier this year by two U.S. deserters who opposed the war in Iraq.

"Anybody who enters Canada who claims refugee status will be provided with a work permit ... it doesn't matter what country they're from," Iadinardi said.

Refugee cases are handled by special boards, which can take months to decide whether to admit applicants. The rulings can be appealed and opposition politicians complain some people ordered deported have been in Canada for 10 years or more.


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To: knak
Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year

So sorry Americans, terrorists Isamonazi's get first in line.

41 posted on 11/03/2004 11:58:22 AM PST by riri
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To: atomicpossum

Maybe they should become wetbacks.....swim across whatever great lake is on a straight line between them and Canada


42 posted on 11/03/2004 11:59:24 AM PST by nuke rocketeer
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To: Grig

I'll swap you for Whoppi Goldberg and Barbra Streisand anytime. Not to mention Michael J. Fox, Bruce Springsteen, Alec Baldwin, Julia Roberts, etc, etc, etc....


43 posted on 11/03/2004 11:59:36 AM PST by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true!!)
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To: Grig
Hey, I'm in Canada, perhaps I can arrange to just swap places with some American liberal!

ROFLMAO!

44 posted on 11/03/2004 12:00:48 PM PST by geedee (When the character of a man is not clear to you, look at his friends.)
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To: dfwgator
Why can't they just sneak across the border like the Mexicans sneak across into this country?

'Cause the Meskins are smarter - they do it real quiet-like. American liberals can be detected at a significant distance (they continously emit an annoying whining sound).

45 posted on 11/03/2004 12:03:34 PM PST by Cloud William (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: knak

Are there lots of openings for 'stoned slackers', 'activists', 'performance artists', 'EST trainers', social workers, 'tie-dye silkscreeners' and 'professional Grateful Dead groupies' in Canada?


46 posted on 11/03/2004 12:07:19 PM PST by The Loan Arranger (At least Jane Fonda "apologized".)
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To: knak
>>>>>Government officials, real estate brokers and Democrat activists said that while some Americans might talk about a move to Canada rather than living with a new Bush administration, they did not expect a mass influx.<<<

Or briefly, liberals are all smoke, no fire kind of people.

47 posted on 11/03/2004 12:08:27 PM PST by DTA (proud pajamista)
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To: knak

LOL!


48 posted on 11/03/2004 12:37:14 PM PST by lainie
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To: knak
"It's one thing to say 'I'm leaving for Canada' and quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school," said one government official.

"Canada's always open and welcoming to Americans who want to relocate here, but we don't think it would be a trend or movement," said Gino Romanese of Royal Lepage Residential Real Estate Services in Toronto.


Pfffftttttttt!!!! LOL!!!!!
49 posted on 11/03/2004 12:41:43 PM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: lainie
quite another to actually find a job here and wonder about where you're going to live and where the children are going to go to school,"

"Tell me about it....." ..... Canadian Citizen
50 posted on 11/03/2004 12:43:01 PM PST by rs79bm (Insert Democratic principles and ideals here: .............this space intentionally left blank.....)
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To: knak

Good riddance RATS, and don't let the screen door hit y'all!!


51 posted on 11/03/2004 12:43:44 PM PST by HomeFree
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To: knak
Please, Canada. Please take our tired, huddled, disprited Liberals - yearning to breathe free.

We promise we won't complain. Not once!

52 posted on 11/03/2004 1:02:36 PM PST by Gritty ("Liberals are incapable of embarrassment–they’re like Arabs without the fighting spirit!-Ann Coulter)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Are there lots of openings for 'stoned slackers', 'activists', 'performance artists', 'EST trainers', social workers, 'tie-dye silkscreeners' and 'professional Grateful Dead groupies' in Canada?

Are you kidding?

You just named 7 of our largest industrial sectors!

Congrats USA!

53 posted on 11/03/2004 1:10:55 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Leonora

Where in Canada are you at right now? I'm a Canadian to his Ph.D in his states because higher ed sucks in Canada.


54 posted on 11/03/2004 1:14:36 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Feynman Lives!)
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To: Grig
Hey, I'm in Canada, perhaps I can arrange to just swap places with some American liberal!

There is a lot more food for thought in your statement, for the casual reader, than you can imagine!

If they would only stop and think.

55 posted on 11/03/2004 1:28:21 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: rs79bm; All

Dems! Throw off your shackles of oppression! Head north!! Now!

56 posted on 11/03/2004 1:46:09 PM PST by lainie
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To: Grig

I was thinking the same thing. I'd swap places with Michael Moore, provided he leaves his money in an account for me. Since he is a raving socialist, he should just come up penniless and depend on this great bunch of stealing, cheating, lying, liberals to take care of him.


57 posted on 11/03/2004 2:12:38 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: knak

"You can't just come to Canada and say "I'm going to stay here."

Probably not, unless you look like you belong on a wanted poster!

I have a great idea. All conservative Canadians head south, all liberal Americans head north. Just make a total exchange, and may the best system win!

Of course, it wouldn't last too long. All of the productive people would be south of the border and there would be nobody to steal from and live off of in Canada.


58 posted on 11/03/2004 2:20:48 PM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: The Loan Arranger

They'll never get off their dope-addled butts and actually MOVE up there unless and until we actually manage to deprive them of their dope for long enough that they become convinced that they'll never get any more unless they go to Canada.

Otherwise, they'll just sit here and suck on the reefer and complain and threaten and whine...


59 posted on 11/03/2004 2:29:41 PM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Mudboy Slim; FBD; scholar; ForGod'sSake
"Canadian officials made clear on Wednesday that any U.S. citizens so fed up with Bush that they want to make a fresh start up north would have to stand in line like any other would-be immigrants -- a wait that can take up to a year."

~sigh~

Well there's always Haiti.

Might be just rumor, buuutttt.

...I hear the lines *into* there are damned short. :o)

60 posted on 11/03/2004 2:33:38 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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